davyjones

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How many spending, or debt reductions has Trump proposed that Massie hasn't supported?

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I guess none, since y’all just got through saying Trump hasn’t proposed any at all.

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all of Obama and Bidens spending was due to Massie voting for them

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Has anyone actually said that, as you’ve clearly stated it right there? I have a hard time believing that.

That being tossed in at the very end is tantamount to an insurance qualification, sort of like the universally known “not that there’s anything wrong with that.” I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume the true sentiment is the one you led with.

Well, the exact words “he’s guilty, throw him straight in prison” aren’t necessarily used, but I think in a number of cases the sentiment is pretty clear. IMO in the majority of such cases, it’s a matter of simply disliking the individual subject of the allegation, any allegation, as opposed to the actual merit of the allegation itself.

I’ve got an aversion to it. I can’t really explain, don’t even know if I could if I wanted to. It’s a strange thing.

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Beware of the freak out humiliation session that awaits you for speaking out against the Trump administration.

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Bro, when there’s some criticism of something or someone on an internet discussion forum, and then there’s a reaction or response to the contrary, why does that bother or surprise people, at all? That’s sorta how the whole thing works, is it not? It’s totally acceptable for there to be a reaction in opposition to a criticism of any aspect of the Trump presidency, just as it’s totally acceptable to issue the criticism of/against it in the first place. In fact, it’s expected in a forum like this.


And no, there’s no imbalance in the fervor associated with opinions or views going one direction or the other.

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Yet he’s a guy hardcore MAGA continually hates on and blames for obstructing Trump. Make it make sense.

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That would be a vocal minority of loudmouth drama queens who have apparently been taught that they should get everything they want, er, demand or throw a fit for, in life.

That’s how it makes sense - well, at least for everyone other than said loudmouth drama queens.

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You people don't understand that there are many competing interests and factions at play in Congress, with divisions among Republicans and not just between Democrats and Republicans. You can't just ram through policy you want simply because Republicans have the majority. The GOPe is the problem. They won't get out of the way and let the will of the voters prevail. They are purposely obstructing and protecting the DC blob.

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This guy gets it. Big time.

Oh I believe you’re exactly correct. It’s been a very self-defeating recent time period for the fella. Very, very poor strategies and decisions.

At first I thought you were talking about Massie. :lol:

But I think it could be the case for both.

Honestly, and I realize this is probably gonna come across a little sassy, but I’m convinced that as a general matter there isn’t going to be much reasonable or rational commentary on this subject from anyone other than attorneys, and even more specifically from those who practice criminal law. There’s just way too much nuance and procedural aspects/obstacles and subjective factors for the non-lawyer to identify and factor in. I see an epidemic of oversimplification and ignorance of (no insult) a vastly more complicated matter than most will understand. If you know, you know.

I may not approach “expert” status on many subjects, but on this one I’m pretty confident, having bounced back and forth between the defense side and the prosecution side. I’m currently the latter, so I’m not exactly talking outta my arse…..this time. Muahahahaha