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Arkansas Football: too good to have lowly Mizzou as a rival?
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:20 pm
I've noticed over the years that Arkansas fans seem to view their football program as prestigious - and seem to be of the opinion lately that the Hogs view themselves as a bit too good to have a rival in lowly Mizzou. And that's always bothered me a bit, because it always seemed like Arkansas's best seasons came at the expense of also-rans in the SWC over 50 years ago. So I was curious if the numbers supported this conclusion. And guess what? They do.
Prior to joining the SEC for the 1992 season, Arkansas held an impressive 555-360-38 all-time record. That's good for a 60.5% win-rate. What those numbers don't show is that many of those wins came against teams like Tulsa, TCU, Baylor, Rice, and SMU. Bear in mind that TCU and Baylor in those days were absolute dogshit.
Since joining the SEC, Arkansas has posted a 181-171-2 record. That's good for just 51.4%, or an average record of 6.24-5.89. It gets worse when you crunch the conference numbers, the Hogs average just a 3.22-4.77 record, good for a 40.32% win-rate.
Now, Mizzou are no world beaters, we all know that, but how do they compare to the Hogs? Since joining the SEC, Mizzou's record is 75-63. Good for a 54.35% win-rate. It's not pretty for the Tigers in conference play either, but it's better than Arkansas: averaging a 3.73-4.45 record, good for a 45.6% win-rate.
So it begs the question, why do so many Hogs see their program as so vastly superior to Mizzou? Is it really because you beat up the little sisters of the poor in Texas for all those years? I don't think we need to bring head-to-head records into this discussion.
Prior to joining the SEC for the 1992 season, Arkansas held an impressive 555-360-38 all-time record. That's good for a 60.5% win-rate. What those numbers don't show is that many of those wins came against teams like Tulsa, TCU, Baylor, Rice, and SMU. Bear in mind that TCU and Baylor in those days were absolute dogshit.
Since joining the SEC, Arkansas has posted a 181-171-2 record. That's good for just 51.4%, or an average record of 6.24-5.89. It gets worse when you crunch the conference numbers, the Hogs average just a 3.22-4.77 record, good for a 40.32% win-rate.
Now, Mizzou are no world beaters, we all know that, but how do they compare to the Hogs? Since joining the SEC, Mizzou's record is 75-63. Good for a 54.35% win-rate. It's not pretty for the Tigers in conference play either, but it's better than Arkansas: averaging a 3.73-4.45 record, good for a 45.6% win-rate.
So it begs the question, why do so many Hogs see their program as so vastly superior to Mizzou? Is it really because you beat up the little sisters of the poor in Texas for all those years? I don't think we need to bring head-to-head records into this discussion.
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:23 pm to BreakawayZou83
I always get a kick out of Arkansas fans and how much they look down their noses at Mizzou
it makes zero sense

Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:24 pm to BreakawayZou83
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So it begs the question, why do so many Hogs see their program as so vastly superior to Mizzou?
Because it is?
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:24 pm to KCM0Tiger
They do the same thing in bball at UF fans for having the nerve to suggest they aren't #2 behind UK in the conference. 

Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:24 pm to Clark14
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Because it is?
Based on what, exactly? Remember, this is a football only thread.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:27 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Based on what, exactly? Remember, this is a football only thread.
Correct. We are not discussing women's cross-country and I will readily concede that Arkansas has a superior basketball program all-time.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:27 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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They do the same thing in bball at UF fans for having the nerve to suggest they aren't #2 behind UK in the conference.
This isn’t true. We have respect for what Florida did in that little stretch you had and 2 nattys are more than 1. I don’t recall any of our fans disparaging Florida.
Donavan was a heck of a coach.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:29 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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this is a football only thread.
Then why did you bring up basketball?
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:29 pm to BreakawayZou83
ANOTHER Mizzou thread about Arkansas.

Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:31 pm to BreakawayZou83
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Correct. We are not discussing women's cross-country and I will readily concede that Arkansas has a superior basketball program all-time.
What's funny is Mizzou has a better record against the SEC East (29-36) than they do (33-54). In fact, Arky has a losing record to UK.

Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:32 pm to Clark14
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This isn’t true. We have respect for what Florida did in that little stretch you had and 2 nattys are more than 1. I don’t recall any of our fans disparaging Florida.
Donavan was a heck of a coach.
Take it up with your fellow Arky posters.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:32 pm to BreakawayZou83
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Correct. We are not discussing women's cross-country and I will readily concede that Arkansas has a superior basketball program all-time.
Well, you are on here disparaging our program and are joined by a Florida fan while nowhere and at no time does anyone discuss your program or even remember you’re in the conference. Why is mizzou so obsessed with us? Pretty sad.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:33 pm to BreakawayZou83
This has the same ring as all the Ag “look at me, look at me” posts. ***Pats head….there you go. Run on now, sure you’re missing out on some SJW work.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:34 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Take it up with your fellow Arky posters.
Why would they care?
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:34 pm to Clark14
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Well, you are on here disparaging our program and are joined by a Florida fan while nowhere and at no time does anyone discuss your program or even remember you’re in the conference. Why is mizzou so obsessed with us? Pretty sad.
You yourself claim that y'all are somehow "vastly superior" to Mizzou.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:36 pm to Clark14
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Well, you are on here disparaging our program
I posted win-loss records and you call it disparaging your program.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:37 pm to BreakawayZou83
You better appreciate the Arkansas series because before long you’re going to be playing Oklahoma every year and that’s a much tougher game than Arkansas.
Arkansas thinks LSU is a big rival but that’s more of a one sided thing. LSU fans view Arkansas the same as we view Miss State. Just another west game.
Arkansas thinks LSU is a big rival but that’s more of a one sided thing. LSU fans view Arkansas the same as we view Miss State. Just another west game.
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:41 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Arky has a losing record to UK.
Those were mostly very good games. We didn’t play them often but when they did roll around on our schedule they’d have the Hefty Lefty, Couch or it seems there was another really good qb I’m forgetting as well. Some of their better teams, no pushovers except the year they beat us with a receiver at qb but we weren’t very good either that year.
I like playing them and would like to play them more often.
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:43 pm to BreakawayZou83
The only thing Arkansas is good for is being a testing target for a nuke.
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