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Arkansas Football: too good to have lowly Mizzou as a rival?

Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:20 pm
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:20 pm
I've noticed over the years that Arkansas fans seem to view their football program as prestigious - and seem to be of the opinion lately that the Hogs view themselves as a bit too good to have a rival in lowly Mizzou. And that's always bothered me a bit, because it always seemed like Arkansas's best seasons came at the expense of also-rans in the SWC over 50 years ago. So I was curious if the numbers supported this conclusion. And guess what? They do.

Prior to joining the SEC for the 1992 season, Arkansas held an impressive 555-360-38 all-time record. That's good for a 60.5% win-rate. What those numbers don't show is that many of those wins came against teams like Tulsa, TCU, Baylor, Rice, and SMU. Bear in mind that TCU and Baylor in those days were absolute dogshit.

Since joining the SEC, Arkansas has posted a 181-171-2 record. That's good for just 51.4%, or an average record of 6.24-5.89. It gets worse when you crunch the conference numbers, the Hogs average just a 3.22-4.77 record, good for a 40.32% win-rate.

Now, Mizzou are no world beaters, we all know that, but how do they compare to the Hogs? Since joining the SEC, Mizzou's record is 75-63. Good for a 54.35% win-rate. It's not pretty for the Tigers in conference play either, but it's better than Arkansas: averaging a 3.73-4.45 record, good for a 45.6% win-rate.

So it begs the question, why do so many Hogs see their program as so vastly superior to Mizzou? Is it really because you beat up the little sisters of the poor in Texas for all those years? I don't think we need to bring head-to-head records into this discussion.
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 4:24 pm
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:22 pm to
Not lately
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:23 pm to
I always get a kick out of Arkansas fans and how much they look down their noses at Mizzou it makes zero sense
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:24 pm to
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So it begs the question, why do so many Hogs see their program as so vastly superior to Mizzou?


Because it is?
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:24 pm to
They do the same thing in bball at UF fans for having the nerve to suggest they aren't #2 behind UK in the conference.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:24 pm to
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Because it is?

Based on what, exactly? Remember, this is a football only thread.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:27 pm to
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Based on what, exactly? Remember, this is a football only thread.


Correct. We are not discussing women's cross-country and I will readily concede that Arkansas has a superior basketball program all-time.
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:27 pm to
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They do the same thing in bball at UF fans for having the nerve to suggest they aren't #2 behind UK in the conference.


This isn’t true. We have respect for what Florida did in that little stretch you had and 2 nattys are more than 1. I don’t recall any of our fans disparaging Florida.

Donavan was a heck of a coach.
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:29 pm to
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this is a football only thread.


Then why did you bring up basketball?
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:29 pm to
ANOTHER Mizzou thread about Arkansas.

Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:31 pm to
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Correct. We are not discussing women's cross-country and I will readily concede that Arkansas has a superior basketball program all-time.

What's funny is Mizzou has a better record against the SEC East (29-36) than they do (33-54). In fact, Arky has a losing record to UK.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:32 pm to
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This isn’t true. We have respect for what Florida did in that little stretch you had and 2 nattys are more than 1. I don’t recall any of our fans disparaging Florida.

Donavan was a heck of a coach.

Take it up with your fellow Arky posters.
Posted by Clark14
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:32 pm to
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Correct. We are not discussing women's cross-country and I will readily concede that Arkansas has a superior basketball program all-time.


Well, you are on here disparaging our program and are joined by a Florida fan while nowhere and at no time does anyone discuss your program or even remember you’re in the conference. Why is mizzou so obsessed with us? Pretty sad.
Posted by KAHog
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:33 pm to
This has the same ring as all the Ag “look at me, look at me” posts. ***Pats head….there you go. Run on now, sure you’re missing out on some SJW work.
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:34 pm to
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Take it up with your fellow Arky posters.


Why would they care?
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:34 pm to
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Well, you are on here disparaging our program and are joined by a Florida fan while nowhere and at no time does anyone discuss your program or even remember you’re in the conference. Why is mizzou so obsessed with us? Pretty sad.

You yourself claim that y'all are somehow "vastly superior" to Mizzou.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9883 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:36 pm to
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Well, you are on here disparaging our program


I posted win-loss records and you call it disparaging your program.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Lone Star State
Member since May 2020
11031 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:37 pm to
You better appreciate the Arkansas series because before long you’re going to be playing Oklahoma every year and that’s a much tougher game than Arkansas.

Arkansas thinks LSU is a big rival but that’s more of a one sided thing. LSU fans view Arkansas the same as we view Miss State. Just another west game.
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 4:39 pm
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:41 pm to
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Arky has a losing record to UK.


Those were mostly very good games. We didn’t play them often but when they did roll around on our schedule they’d have the Hefty Lefty, Couch or it seems there was another really good qb I’m forgetting as well. Some of their better teams, no pushovers except the year they beat us with a receiver at qb but we weren’t very good either that year.

I like playing them and would like to play them more often.
Posted by MoneyOverSECRQuality
Member since Mar 2023
1209 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:43 pm to
The only thing Arkansas is good for is being a testing target for a nuke.

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