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Head coaches who led their team to the SECCG in first season...
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:20 am
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:20 am
2005- Les Miles. Lost game. Won 1 NCship. Eventually fired.
2013- Gus Malzahn. Won game. Won 0 NCships. Eventually fired.
2015- Jim McElwain. Lost game. Won 0 NCships. Eventually resigned because he was gonna be fired.
2022- Brian Kelly. ???
Will Kelly become the second to win the SEC as a first year coach?
Will Kelly become the second to go on to win a national title?
Will Kelly become the first to leave his school without being fired or forced out?
2013- Gus Malzahn. Won game. Won 0 NCships. Eventually fired.
2015- Jim McElwain. Lost game. Won 0 NCships. Eventually resigned because he was gonna be fired.
2022- Brian Kelly. ???
Will Kelly become the second to win the SEC as a first year coach?
Will Kelly become the second to go on to win a national title?
Will Kelly become the first to leave his school without being fired or forced out?
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:21 am to koreandawg
I thought Brian Kelly’s first year success was unprecedented
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:26 am to JackTraven
He did fine, but the SECw is pretty bad this year.
I know we say that and how it sounds, but this year it is the truth. I don't think you can argue that.
Winning the division is good though no matter what.
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How many appearances did Miles have in the Championship game? Was it once?
I know we say that and how it sounds, but this year it is the truth. I don't think you can argue that.
Winning the division is good though no matter what.
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How many appearances did Miles have in the Championship game? Was it once?
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 6:29 am
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:27 am to JackTraven
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I thought Brian Kelly’s first year success was unprecedented
I'd rank them this way.
1. Malzahn in 2013. It was a 3-9 team the previous year. Took a new QB who had been a DB at the college level and ran a really efficient offense. He not only won the SEC, but came within a hair of winning it all.
2. Kelly in 2022. Not a good team last year, but a good bit of talent still on it.
3. McElwain in 2015. Defense was loaded. It was not a great team, but the division was weak. He could coach offense well enough to win games with the D, something Will's OCs only did once really.
4. Miles in 2005- took over Saban's machine with no Saban to compete against.
Nothing could happen tomorrow to change the rankings. At best, Kelly will have a three loss champ not in the playoff.
But with a loss, I'd still rank him ahead of the others behind him.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 6:49 am
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:34 am to koreandawg
Not to diminish what BK was able to accomplish, but I don’t think there is any question that the transfer portal makes the turnaround much easier and faster. And, the West is clearly down a notch this year. All that being said, he still did a great job, to get those results.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:41 am to koreandawg
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Eventually resigned because he was gonna be fired
I’m pretty sure this is because he was having sexual relations with a Selachimorpha.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:46 am to koreandawg
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Malzahn in 2013. It was an average team at best the previous year.
Lol, it was arguably the worst SEC team in history. Especially from a member of the "Big 6".
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:49 am to RandySavage
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Lol, it was arguably the worst SEC team in history. Especially from a member of the "Big 6".
I fixed it. Confused that team with the bowl eligible 2011 one.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:53 am to SRV
No doubt on both. Transfer portal has changed the game
Posted on 12/2/22 at 7:02 am to JackTraven
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I thought Brian Kelly’s first year success was unprecedented
Not quite. It’s almost unprecedented, though. Much like Georgia’s national championship last year.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 7:21 am to JackTraven
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unprecedented
Larry Coker 12-0
Gus Malzahn 12-2
John Robinson 11-1
Barry Switzer 10-0
Chris Peterson 13-0
Urban Meyer 12-0
Terry Bowden 11-0
Earl Bruce 11-1
Fred Akers 11-1
Bill Battle 11-1
Fred Akers 11-1
Posted on 12/2/22 at 7:24 am to koreandawg
Interesting stat. Let's look at the records of some of the historical SEC coaches in their first full year as SEC head coaches (only including coaches whose first full year was in the Divisional Era).
Phil Fulmer - 10-2 (7-1)
Nick Saban - 8-4 (5-3)
Les Miles - 11-2 (7-1)
Ed Orgeron - 3-8 (1-7)
Mark Richt - 8-4 (5-3)
Kirby Smart - 8-5 (4-4)
Lane Kiffin - 7-6 (4-4)
Gus Malzahn - 12-2 (7-1)
Urban Meyer - 9-3 (5-3)
Kevin Sumlin - 11-2 (6-2)
Jimbo Fisher - 9-4 (5-3)
Lou Holtz - 0-11 (0-8)
Mark Stoops - 2-10 (0-8)
James Franklin - 6-7 (2-6)
Gerry DiNardo - 5-6 (3-4)
Gene Chizik - 8-5 (3-5)
Tommy Tuberville - 6-5 (3-5)
Terry Bowden - 11-0 (8-0)
Hugh Freeze 0-6 (0-5) All Wins Vacated
Danny Ford - 6-4-1 (4-3-1)
Houston Nutt - 9-3 (6-2)
Bobby Petrino - 5-7 (2-6)
Sam Pittman - 3-7 (3-7)
Bert is Fat - 3-9 (0-8)
Dave Cutcliffe - 8-4 (4-4)
Sylvester Croom - 3-8 (2-6)
Joe Moorhead - 8-5 (4-4)
Mike Leach - 4-7 (3-7)
Barry Odom - 4-8 (2-6)
Drunktitz - 5-5 (5-5)
Derek Dooley - 6-7 (3-5)
Botch Jones - 5-7 (2-6)
Germy Prut - 5-7 (2-6)
Josh Heupel - 7-6 (4-4)
Phil Fulmer - 10-2 (7-1)
Nick Saban - 8-4 (5-3)
Les Miles - 11-2 (7-1)
Ed Orgeron - 3-8 (1-7)
Mark Richt - 8-4 (5-3)
Kirby Smart - 8-5 (4-4)
Lane Kiffin - 7-6 (4-4)
Gus Malzahn - 12-2 (7-1)
Urban Meyer - 9-3 (5-3)
Kevin Sumlin - 11-2 (6-2)
Jimbo Fisher - 9-4 (5-3)
Lou Holtz - 0-11 (0-8)
Mark Stoops - 2-10 (0-8)
James Franklin - 6-7 (2-6)
Gerry DiNardo - 5-6 (3-4)
Gene Chizik - 8-5 (3-5)
Tommy Tuberville - 6-5 (3-5)
Terry Bowden - 11-0 (8-0)
Hugh Freeze 0-6 (0-5) All Wins Vacated
Danny Ford - 6-4-1 (4-3-1)
Houston Nutt - 9-3 (6-2)
Bobby Petrino - 5-7 (2-6)
Sam Pittman - 3-7 (3-7)
Bert is Fat - 3-9 (0-8)
Dave Cutcliffe - 8-4 (4-4)
Sylvester Croom - 3-8 (2-6)
Joe Moorhead - 8-5 (4-4)
Mike Leach - 4-7 (3-7)
Barry Odom - 4-8 (2-6)
Drunktitz - 5-5 (5-5)
Derek Dooley - 6-7 (3-5)
Botch Jones - 5-7 (2-6)
Germy Prut - 5-7 (2-6)
Josh Heupel - 7-6 (4-4)
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:32 am to i am dan
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:07 am to koreandawg
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Will Kelly become the first to leave his school without being fired or forced out?
How many coaches actually leave their job because they want to?
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:10 am to koreandawg
1993-Terry Bowden won the division but we were ineligible to play in the SECCG because of probation.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:11 am to i am dan
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How many appearances did Miles have in the Championship game? Was it once?
Lol
2005
2007
2011
Won the SEC in 2007 and 2011.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:14 am to SRV
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And, the West is clearly down a notch this year.
It's actually pretty comparable to the east, from top to bottom.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:18 am to wadewilson
The national championship game, not the SECCG.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:23 am to elit4ce05
You can downplay what Kelly did all you want. The fact remains LSU was a dumpster fire a year ago and played in a bowl game with 39 scholarship players and WR playing QB. They also lost who most people considered to be the team’s best defensive player in the first half of the first game. No doubt the transfer portal helped enormously, but he did a fantastic job.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:24 am to koreandawg
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Eventually fired.
Most coaches are eventually fired
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