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Arkansas Scoring efficiency is not good this year
Posted on 10/5/22 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 10/5/22 at 1:43 pm
Through week 5, Hogs rank 57 in offense and 97th in defensive scoring efficiency.
That metric is the best one out there to determine how good you really are.
In turn, Miss State is 16 in Offensive scoring effiecncy and 59 in defensive... Equating to a massive overall difference of 79 spots between the two teams.
Last year were around the 40s in both O and D SE.
That metric is the best one out there to determine how good you really are.
In turn, Miss State is 16 in Offensive scoring effiecncy and 59 in defensive... Equating to a massive overall difference of 79 spots between the two teams.
Last year were around the 40s in both O and D SE.
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 1:44 pm
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 1:49 pm to Jack Ruby
Playing Alabama will do that to you. If we were healthy the teams would be pretty equal.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 1:54 pm to Poker_hog
Turning the ball over on the goal line multiple times with one going back 100yds the other way for a TD will kill you as well, but we're still lagging way behind Moo State and they're at home.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 3:04 pm to Jack Ruby
You want stats?
98th total defense
74th in rushing defense
124th in coverage defense
31st in pressure defense
That won't get it done against State
98th total defense
74th in rushing defense
124th in coverage defense
31st in pressure defense
That won't get it done against State
Posted on 10/5/22 at 4:04 pm to ArHog
Nor will:
31st in total offense.
83rd in passing offense.
53rd in 3rd down conversions.
31st in total offense.
83rd in passing offense.
53rd in 3rd down conversions.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 5:02 pm to Jack Ruby
I’ve said this a million times — we’re a 20/20 offense. Great between the 20s, lousy inside of them.
Last year we settled for a ton of field goals inside the red zone. This year we’re scoring from outside the red zone more and/or turning the ball over inside of it.
Last year we settled for a ton of field goals inside the red zone. This year we’re scoring from outside the red zone more and/or turning the ball over inside of it.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 6:29 pm to Feral
They're atrocious in the red zone because that's where passing becomes extremely compacted and more difficult.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 7:46 pm to Jack Ruby
Yep. Much easier to shut down the perimeter passing game and make us one dimensional since we can’t throw slant routes with accuracy.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:02 pm to Feral
slant routes are not a good bet to work in the red zone because you've probably got man coverage on you
inside the 10 its guaranteed you've got man coverage on you
we're tied with 10 teams for 106th in the nation in fumbles turned over
inside the 10 its guaranteed you've got man coverage on you
we're tied with 10 teams for 106th in the nation in fumbles turned over
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:09 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
don't even know what "scoring efficiency" means
it's certainly not a statistical category compiled by the NCAA
sounds like a Fantasy Football dweeb stat
you either score or you don't
it's certainly not a statistical category compiled by the NCAA
sounds like a Fantasy Football dweeb stat
you either score or you don't
Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:56 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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slant routes are not a good bet to work in the red zone because you've probably got man coverage on you
Depends on the personnel, and how the defense is playing them. The problem is not that we can’t throw slants. It’s that we can’t throw slants, fades, back shoulder, short cross, rubs, or even a jump ball to our 6’5” receiver.
Our complete lack of a short passing game is part of the reason KJ has to put his body on the line 10-15 times per game.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:10 pm to Feral
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Yep. Much easier to shut down the perimeter passing game and make us one dimensional since we can’t throw slant routes with accuracy.
I’ve always hated the race to the sideline mentality of so many OC’s. What grinds my gears about ours, is that we never get the money shot. We throw to the sideline 4-6 times per game, most of the time for little to no yardage. Part of the reason for doing that has to be the payoff. At some point you fake that sideline throw, your fastest receiver fakes a block, and heads for the house. We never get there. Maybe I’ve missed it, but I’ve never seen us do it the entire time Briles has been here.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:30 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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don't even know what "scoring efficiency" means
it's certainly not a statistical category compiled by the NCAA
sounds like a Fantasy Football dweeb stat
Yep... Only the best metric for predicting national title winners over the last 20 years and one extremely key stat the CFP Committee leans heavily on when seeding teams... so it must be Hocus Pocus.
This isnt hard - how efficient are you at scoring and how efficient are you at keeping the other team from scoring. Takes out tempo and scheme from the equation and just boils it down to how well you can move the ball and score.
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:06 am to Jack Ruby
In other words, scoring offense and scoring defense
Been around for oh 130 years
ETA: sorry man, just never heard of it, not trying to be a smartass
Been around for oh 130 years
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over the last 20 years
ETA: sorry man, just never heard of it, not trying to be a smartass
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 9:35 am
Posted on 10/6/22 at 3:39 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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In other words, scoring offense and scoring defense
That's like saying passing yards and QBR are the same thing.
Theyre KPIs to rank the same position but not equivalent.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 3:52 pm to oklahogjr
I think Arkansas is around 0.5 pts per play on offense, while Bama is something like 0.8 pts per play, which is ridiculous.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 5:22 pm to Jack Ruby
Our offense being dog shite is the story that nobody wants to talk about. An upperclassman qb and probably the oldest line we’ve ever had should make for a more productive offense.
In my opinion an offense that makes its hay running the ball can’t have the percentage of unproductive running plays that Briles’s offense features. The only way the math works in that scenario is if your offense averages an exceptional number of chunk plays.
In my opinion an offense that makes its hay running the ball can’t have the percentage of unproductive running plays that Briles’s offense features. The only way the math works in that scenario is if your offense averages an exceptional number of chunk plays.
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 10/6/22 at 5:27 pm to beaverfever
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Our offense being dog shite is the story that nobody wants to talk about
But Briles is responsible for KJ's development and calling the plays
Posted on 10/6/22 at 5:27 pm to beaverfever
The line has been good but it doesn’t matter when we can’t complete a forward pass. Teams give us the intermediate shite and we just can’t complete them
If kj doesn’t start this weekend then it will tell us a lot. Mainly if we need to be in the qb market this off season via the portal
If kj doesn’t start this weekend then it will tell us a lot. Mainly if we need to be in the qb market this off season via the portal
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 10/6/22 at 5:29 pm to ArHog
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But Briles is responsible for KJ's development and calling the plays
Same song second verse for our lack of adequate backup
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