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Gabe is right for once. Hire a past scum bag like Miller. The game has changed so play it
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:50 pm
or get left behind.
Maybe not Sean Miller, I'd take Archie over him just an age thing and hoping that it would work for many years here, again the age thing.
Auburn hired Pearl after his shite at Tennessee why not try to go down the same road? I dont think Miller was a great coach at Arizona but he can recruit, buy recruits and was a good coach at Xavier before he took the Arizona job.
I dont think the good ole boys club exist here when it comes to the old guard who wants nothing but good ole well mannered country boys arriving to games on their tractors on the roster. That said if any of you do exist here. 2022 called and said its 2022.
Maybe not Sean Miller, I'd take Archie over him just an age thing and hoping that it would work for many years here, again the age thing.
Auburn hired Pearl after his shite at Tennessee why not try to go down the same road? I dont think Miller was a great coach at Arizona but he can recruit, buy recruits and was a good coach at Xavier before he took the Arizona job.
I dont think the good ole boys club exist here when it comes to the old guard who wants nothing but good ole well mannered country boys arriving to games on their tractors on the roster. That said if any of you do exist here. 2022 called and said its 2022.
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Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:57 pm to Kung_Fu_Boogaloo
Sounds good.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:58 pm to Kung_Fu_Boogaloo
I don’t know where this thought that we are bastions of morality is coming from (not referring to you), but I do see this comment a lot. Like we are “doing things right”. That’s just an excuse for being losers.
Some of these dudes are too young to remember Dr Detroit or the Quin era. We’ve never had a problem playing the game, and we won’t now. If they wanted to keep “doing things right” they could have saved 6M and sucked arse with Cuonzo for the next few years.
And I’ll admit, I thought they would. I’m actually impressed and hopeful that our admin didn’t ignore the incredibly obvious like I thought they would. It’s refreshing.
So bring me the dirtiest fricking winner you can find, and we’ll all love him and frick anyone who says different. Compliance don’t sell tickets
Some of these dudes are too young to remember Dr Detroit or the Quin era. We’ve never had a problem playing the game, and we won’t now. If they wanted to keep “doing things right” they could have saved 6M and sucked arse with Cuonzo for the next few years.
And I’ll admit, I thought they would. I’m actually impressed and hopeful that our admin didn’t ignore the incredibly obvious like I thought they would. It’s refreshing.
So bring me the dirtiest fricking winner you can find, and we’ll all love him and frick anyone who says different. Compliance don’t sell tickets
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:35 pm to Kung_Fu_Boogaloo
Oats and Musselman are pretty good hires with no bad history. 
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:38 pm to Kung_Fu_Boogaloo
Gabe is also right about Kim English. Hes not qualified now but if our next coach sucks and Kim becomes a hot name during that time Kim will be somewhere better than Mizzou when we do this all again.
Kim has the donor/NIL ties I think he can recruit and sell Mizzou even to 16 and 17 year old kids given hes 33 and can answer any doubts about Missouri being good at basketball by saying I/we did it 15 years ago. Which these kids wont remember because they were two or three years old and think fifteen years is a long time like all of us did before we turned 21 and time sped way the frick up.
If they bring him in hire an old established failed HC who is a X's and O's guy, maybe another recruiter. Let Kim get the talent, let the old head mentor him on the coaching part and if it hits its a homerun. If it fails its no different than the position we will be in if the next coach not named Kim English fails here too.
View it like drafting a QB in the NFL. Secure the OL, get some playmakers at the skill position even do the frowned upon thing and invest short term in a RB while the QB is cheap/young and roll with it.
Kim has the donor/NIL ties I think he can recruit and sell Mizzou even to 16 and 17 year old kids given hes 33 and can answer any doubts about Missouri being good at basketball by saying I/we did it 15 years ago. Which these kids wont remember because they were two or three years old and think fifteen years is a long time like all of us did before we turned 21 and time sped way the frick up.
If they bring him in hire an old established failed HC who is a X's and O's guy, maybe another recruiter. Let Kim get the talent, let the old head mentor him on the coaching part and if it hits its a homerun. If it fails its no different than the position we will be in if the next coach not named Kim English fails here too.
View it like drafting a QB in the NFL. Secure the OL, get some playmakers at the skill position even do the frowned upon thing and invest short term in a RB while the QB is cheap/young and roll with it.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:39 pm to JesusQuintana
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So bring me the dirtiest fricking winner you can find, and we’ll all love him and frick anyone who says different.
Yes please.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:54 pm to everytrueson
I follow GMU a decent amount, here is what Id like to happen.
Hire a pitino like coach for 3-4 years than get kimmie
Hire a pitino like coach for 3-4 years than get kimmie
Posted on 3/12/22 at 9:48 am to mizslu314
Correct me if I’m wrong but what got guys like Miller in trouble are now things that can be done above board through NIL monies???? If so, I don’t know if I would call him a scum bag as much as I would say he was just ahead of his time.
Just go get a winner. Don’t give two shits about their past.
Just go get a winner. Don’t give two shits about their past.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 10:15 am to reedus23
The fact that even gabe said the same thing is telling
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:05 am to reedus23
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Correct me if I’m wrong but what got guys like Miller in trouble are now things that can be done above board through NIL monies???? If so, I don’t know if I would call him a scum bag as much as I would say he was just ahead of his time.
Just go get a winner. Don’t give two shits about their past.
Exactly. With NIL, nobody is "dirty" anymore in recruiting. Just get the best damn coach you can.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:21 am to JesusQuintana
Maybe I am older than you or maybe not. I know different times and different era. But I was around twenty when Quin got canned and I thought that was a terrible decision because I was into recruiting (mainly it was ESPN if not only them....and free) then and knew the man could recruit, knew then and before that. That recruiting is what makes programs. Coaching still mattered/matters but even then not as much as it did ten years before that.
But I remember many fans or not(trolls) saying he had to go and how his ethics were not the Mizzou way or whatever. Then suitcase was hired next and thought that was a downgrade. And had we rode it out with Quin I would have probably been right. But also admit for Quin getting canned and fricking up like that actually helped him and to his credit rebuilt his image and career on his own. Sure he was on some big name NBA staffs which helped but he had to work long and hard and I dont know if he would be where he is now if it worked out here.
Sorry for the long version. I just remember it and I unfortunately will go to TB to see if any info is there and there are still plenty of "do it the right way" old heads over there.
But I remember many fans or not(trolls) saying he had to go and how his ethics were not the Mizzou way or whatever. Then suitcase was hired next and thought that was a downgrade. And had we rode it out with Quin I would have probably been right. But also admit for Quin getting canned and fricking up like that actually helped him and to his credit rebuilt his image and career on his own. Sure he was on some big name NBA staffs which helped but he had to work long and hard and I dont know if he would be where he is now if it worked out here.
Sorry for the long version. I just remember it and I unfortunately will go to TB to see if any info is there and there are still plenty of "do it the right way" old heads over there.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 2:19 pm to Kung_Fu_Boogaloo
If Quin hadn’t rode the cocaine train we’d be in a much different situation now. He probably would have left for another job eventually but the man could coach and recruit. We may have made a final 4 before he left. He was capable. After that it just really went downhill, even though we had a few good years mixed in.
We really need to nail this
We really need to nail this
Posted on 3/12/22 at 6:02 pm to Kung_Fu_Boogaloo
I enjoy reading RockM for all the wrong reasons. They had a couple people say they were crying because Cuonzo got fired. shite’s hilarious.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 6:18 pm to the808bass
You're talking about that childish Karen Steger. What a poor excuse for a "journalist." That was a revolting piece she wrote.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 8:59 pm to Literalist
She loves to police one side of the argument on the website. It’s pretty hilarious.
Posted on 3/13/22 at 12:07 am to Kung_Fu_Boogaloo
Is there some rule here that says you can't win if you aren't dirty?
I want to watch good basketball. I'd prefer that we not enable the public educational (allegedly) institution that we, as Missourians, pay for, to use our monies to support corruption just to win.
I'm pretty sure we can be entertained without being corrupt.
I want to watch good basketball. I'd prefer that we not enable the public educational (allegedly) institution that we, as Missourians, pay for, to use our monies to support corruption just to win.
I'm pretty sure we can be entertained without being corrupt.
Posted on 3/13/22 at 9:48 am to deputyfife
I also say we can win without cheating. As an alum, I want no part of anyone with a questionable background hired just to win more damn basketball games. I actually do not wish to see the University I have rooted for and attended get into trouble with the NCAA again. No thanks. Plenty of good coaches out there that do not have a sketchy past!
Posted on 3/14/22 at 7:13 am to Mizzoustance
False, every great coach/recruiter has cheated one way or another, if you think they are clean, they just have not been caught yet.
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:41 am to deputyfife
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Is there some rule here that says you can't win if you aren't dirty?
Pretty much, yeah.
Besides, paying players is legal(ish) now so what exactly would anyone be worried about?
Posted on 3/14/22 at 2:30 pm to JesusQuintana
Premise of the discussion was that we should hire someone scummy so that we have a higher chance of winning.
I said false premise.
I never said there were saints coaching college bb. Just said we didn't have to embrace corruption.
Also, I agree that with NIL there should be much less to worry about. Mizzou, just as an SEC school, should be able to pay decent NIL money to 7-8 players to form a strong, competitive team.
I said false premise.
I never said there were saints coaching college bb. Just said we didn't have to embrace corruption.
Also, I agree that with NIL there should be much less to worry about. Mizzou, just as an SEC school, should be able to pay decent NIL money to 7-8 players to form a strong, competitive team.
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