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Surprising pessimism from our very good friend Gabe:

Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:00 am
Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
3622 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:00 am
His thoughts for the fb team:

"I could easily see 6-6 or even 5-7 as things stand today"

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125510 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:09 am to
Not sure that’s irrational.

We are still at least a year away from being SEC good. Add in a new D coordinator and a .500 record is rational, even if it’s on the disappointing side.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21373 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:15 am to
quote:

"I could easily see 6-6 or even 5-7 as things stand today"


Seems legit. The shine of Drinkwitz coaching abilities has worn off. He really let some close losses get away with poor coaching decisions. The only close loss that I think was mostly positive for Drink was @BC. I think he handled the end of the game very well and it was just a putrid D he could not hide that lost the game.
Posted by Faurot fodder
Member since Jul 2019
6534 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:33 am to
That goliath of a question mark at QB makes it very difficult for me to think we will be above .500 this year, but there's a lot of time and opportunity between now and fall camp. We shall see how spring ball shakes out with Cook and Macon, and if the question mark is still there, then I fully expect Drink to hit the portal.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
22285 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:48 am to
quote:

The shine of Drinkwitz coaching abilities has worn off.

He's been forced to build his offense around RBs because of limited QBs and WRs couldn't gain separation.

This should change with Luther on board and other WRs in their proper roles even if Horn doesn't immediately start.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21373 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:13 am to
quote:

He's been forced to build his offense around RBs because of limited QBs and WRs couldn't gain separation.


I dont think many have an issue with that but the terrible play calling for loooong stretches were pretty bad. At times he shows a penchant for being creative and putting defenses on their heels with some nice constraint concepts. Then other times he calls the same short passes or non-working run plays over and over and over. It was like he was scared to open the playbook.
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
16662 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:18 am to
6-6 is probably the most accurate.

Wins: LA tech, ACU, Vandy, NM state. = 4
Losses: UGA, K state, Tennessee = 3
Toss ups: Auburn, Florida, USC, UK, Arkansas.
Posted by blueprint_one
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2015
1307 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:34 am to
quote:

He's been forced to build his offense around RBs because of limited QBs and WRs couldn't gain separation.



Forced? He chose to start an injured, underperforming, and turnover prone Connor Bazelak. Our back-ups were better than him even when he was healthy.

The goal-posts keep getting pushed back, Eli is who is he is. He is a poor man's version of Lane Kiffin. I think he thinks he's this offensive genius but has shown us nothing, literally NOTHING to justify it.
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 10:37 am
Posted by MIZZOU_JP
Member since Apr 2015
1813 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:24 am to
I honestly don't think he's any better than Barry coaching-wise. At least he blows Barry out of the water when it comes to recruiting. If he can't get it done with a talented roster, we need to move on.
Posted by Indignity
Tennessee
Member since Aug 2020
2136 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:26 am to
Has anyone gone back and watched the games he coached at App State? Any clues there? I mean, I haven't, but they won their conference.
Posted by deputyfife
Member since Dec 2013
1414 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:40 am to
Could also see 7-5 or 8-5 pretty easily. QB is important, but a team can still be decent with average qb play. We can compete with anyone on our schedule but Georgia.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68474 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

7-5 or 8-4

My guess
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
8522 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:02 pm to
I still say 2023 is when we really find out what we have. The 2020 win against LSU skewed a lot of folks expectations. To me that season does not count. 3 good years is what is needed just to build a good starting point.

Has the offense been haphazard? Yes. But I think it's because he has not trusted his lines. (On either side of the ball frankly) There has been a heavy emphasis on line players this last cycle, and I expect this to continue. The SEC is built around line play, and ours were some of the worst in the conference. The lines are what take longest to build, as opposed to skill positions.

I have watched App state footage. Those were good offenses centered around solid line play. Something we have not had here in quite some time. Odoms biggest failing IMHO was the near total inability to identify and recruit quality linesmen. There are no quick fixs for line play I fear.
Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
3622 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:58 pm to
Drink will get more talents. That is what I am telling you!
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
8522 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18380 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 5:57 pm to
How about hearing this news? Might be good get even though he denies this is true. It will be good to have more experience as a quarterback over the others on the team.

LINK
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 6:01 pm
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
8522 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 7:23 pm to
You need to read more before posting.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
22285 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

Forced? He chose to start an injured, underperforming, and turnover prone Connor Bazelak. Our back-ups were better than him even when he was healthy.

The goal-posts keep getting pushed back, Eli is who is he is. He is a poor man's version of Lane Kiffin. I think he thinks he's this offensive genius but has shown us nothing, literally NOTHING to justify it.

I can't disagree with what you're saying about his decision to stick with Bazelak. It was putrid.

His best offensive player both years has been a running back and he rolled with it out of necessity.
So before I pass any final judgment on his ability as a playcaller I want to see what he does with a bonifide playmaker like Luther at his disposal.

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