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Defensive Tackling - First 6 games (ending with A&M) and final 7 games (after A&M)

Posted on 12/14/21 at 11:36 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/14/21 at 11:36 am
Per PFF's stats


Through Texas A&M (First 6 games)
- 257 tackles
- 58 missed tackles
- 315 tackle attempts
- 18.4% missed tackle rate
- average 10 missed tackles per game

- 9% missed rate vs Miami
- 24% missed rate vs Florida
- 29% missed rate vs Ole Miss
- 22% missed rate vs Texas A&M



Post-Texas A&M (Last 7 games)
- 310 tackles
- 38 missed tackles
- 348 tackle attempts
- 10.9% missed tackle rate
- average 5 missed tackles per game

- 7% missed rate vs State
- 15% missed rate vs Tennessee
- 11% missed rate vs LSU
- 17% missed rate vs Arkansas
- 8% missed rate vs Auburn
- 11% missed rate vs Georgia



Individually (LB & Safety)

First 6 Games (through A&M)
- Henry To'o To'o - 28.9%
- DeMarco Hellams - 21.6%
- Will Anderson - 20.8%
- Jordan Battle - 17.9%
- Christian Harris - 14.3%

Last 7 Games (post-A&M)
- Henry To'o To'o - 15.6% (down 13%)
- DeMarco Hellams - 6.7% (down 15%)
- Will Anderson - 13.5% (down 7%)
- Jordan Battle - 5.9% (down 12%)
- Christian Harris - 11.1% (down 3%)
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 11:41 am
Posted by Tider95
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 12/14/21 at 11:41 am to
Just rewatching the Miss St game over the weekend (I like to throw on the abbreviated versions from youtube while I work on stuff), the diffference doesnt seem to be so much technique as was fewer poor angles/better pursuit to the ball which directly led to better wrapping up and fewer arm tackles.

I'll have to force myself to finally rewatch A&M, but i wonder if something changed defensively that led to such a change in the way our defensive players started moving to the ball.
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 11:44 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 11:53 am to
quote:

Just rewatching the Miss St game over the weekend (I like to throw on the abbreviated versions from youtube while I work on stuff), the diffference doesnt seem to be so much technique as was fewer poor angles/better pursuit to the ball which directly led to better wrapping up and fewer arm tackles.

I'll have to force myself to finally rewatch A&M, but i wonder if something changed defensively that led to such a change in the way our defensive players started moving to the ball.



Same - we seemed out of position much less after A&M. We still had some busts in coverages, but we didn't seem to be out of position in terms of general play alignment nearly as often after that. I have to imagine we at least simplified the communication and trying to get into the "best play" stuff that Saban hinted at a couple of times back then.

We had tons of plays the first month or so where we were still trying to get aligned as the ball was being snapped and then tried to adjust on the fly and ended up out of position. We haven't had have many of those after the A&M game.
Posted by Tider95
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 12/14/21 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

We had tons of plays the first month or so where we were still trying to get aligned as the ball was being snapped and then tried to adjust on the fly and ended up out of position. We haven't had have many of those after the A&M game.


Reminds me a lot of Pruitt with the simplification and focus on 11 men on the same page over trying to out chess-game the offense.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

Reminds me a lot of Pruitt with the simplification and focus on 11 men on the same page over trying to out chess-game the offense.




Yep - and it isn't even "simplifying the playbook" as in just running 4-5 basic things. It's just not trying to match everything perfectly right up until the snap of the ball (including matching their audible calls).

We are still multiple as hell and do all sorts of complicated stuff, we just decide it pre-snap and generally stick with it unless we are clearly going to do something that opens us up to issues based on their formation grouping.
Posted by Kashmir
Member since Dec 2014
9742 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 12:24 pm to
fascinating stuff! there’s definitely a difference in the way they’re playing. they seem to be having fun lately.
thanks for all that info!!
Posted by PBD4BAMA
Sweet Home Alabama
Member since Dec 2014
6465 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

there’s definitely a difference in the way they’re playing. they seem to be having fun lately.

""Stella got her groove back"" per se!
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12832 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:03 pm to
These last group of QB's kind of stick to the pocket and not a big threat to run. That situation is ideal for Nick's defense.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24521 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

These last group of QB's kind of stick to the pocket and not a big threat to run.

Ridder can kind of run. But Alabama has done fairly well versus running QBs this year with the exception of Emory Jones.
Posted by Sauron
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2015
1100 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:09 pm to
This has become par for the course for a Golding defense at Alabama:
1. Look crappy the first half of the year (by our standards, anyway)
2. Realize once again that we're overcomplicating things, and simplify the play calls to allow our guys to play / react faster
3. Based on 2., we begin to show improvement about 2/3 of the way through the year
4. Become a pretty stout defense in November and through the rest of the season

I've gotten off the Golding train, but I could be convinced to get back on if he could somehow learn to skip step 1 and start each year at step 2.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

This has become par for the course for a Golding defense at Alabama:
1. Look crappy the first half of the year (by our standards, anyway)
2. Realize once again that we're overcomplicating things, and simplify the play calls to allow our guys to play / react faster
3. Based on 2., we begin to show improvement about 2/3 of the way through the year
4. Become a pretty stout defense in November and through the rest of the season



Yea, the last 2 years have basically been rinse repeat

And both had 1 hiccup performance in the 2nd half (Florida and Arkansas).
Posted by Sauron
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2015
1100 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 1:13 pm to
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And both had 1 hiccup performance in the 2nd half (Florida and Arkansas).


Maaaan ... I had JUST managed to block those games out, and you gotta go remind me of them AGAIN?
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12832 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 3:28 pm to
Way down the road but.....#19 for UGA was They Guy that keep the Dawgs in that game. He killed us in the 3rd and 4th qtrs over and over. #14 couldn't handle him and #3 was worse.

If Bama wins round 1 and draws the Dawgs then #19 has to be challenged from the snap on every play. You got to make some beside that cat beat them.

But 1st got to beat Cincy.
Posted by Brostache48
Member since Dec 2019
557 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 3:49 pm to
I honestly think when HT injured his elbow or shoulder in the Miami game, it really messed with his play for a few games. Whether he was still feeling the effects from the injury or just a little gun shy to be quite as aggressive, scared to really take himself out with a significant injury. Maybe a little of both? But he seemed try to arm tackle and not try to lay a big hit, after that injury, which in turn led to a lot of missed tackles.
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 3:51 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 4:07 pm to
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I honestly think when HT injured his elbow or shoulder in the Miami game, it really messed with his play for a few games. Whether he was still feeling the effects from the injury or just a little gun shy to be quite as aggressive, scared to really take himself out with a significant injury. Maybe a little of both? But he seemed try to arm tackle and not try to lay a big hit, after that injury, which in turn led to a lot of missed tackles.



Agree, and Hellams probably similar with his busted wheel for the first half of the season.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12832 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 4:10 pm to
Is Malachi Moore still on the team. Which game was the last game he played?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 12/14/21 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Is Malachi Moore still on the team. Which game was the last game he played?




Arkansas. I've read that his back injury hasn't fully healed and perhaps that effected his play, but Branch has basically taken the position full time at this point. Dunno if it's all injury, all performance or a little of both.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
20241 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:48 am to
His back injury just hasn’t turned the corner. It may on this large break. Will give us depth at worst and another man for dime.
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 10:49 am
Posted by Tider95
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2017
2137 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:51 am to
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His back injury just hasn’t turned the corner.

Thinking about how much my back injury ruined my ability to play as an olineman... i cant imagine being a DB with a back injury.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
26153 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:58 am to
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And both had 1 hiccup performance in the 2nd half (Florida and Arkansas).


I’ve filed the Florida game under “good offensive coach treating this as his Super Bowl plus athletic team” and left it alone
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 10:59 am
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