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Can we please just start Geriner
Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:05 am
Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:05 am
If we had started him to begin the season we would have seen a different result yesterday, at least a competent loss.
I get it, he "doesnt see the field, blah blah blah". That was the reason to start Thorne. Well its obvious Thorne cant see the field OR throw the ball.
And still a lot of it is on the receivers. Check the one pass Geriner threw five yards behind the receiver on the sideline. He expected the receiver to cut TOOOOOO the sideline away from the safety and corner so he could throw a safe pass and the friggin receiver cuts to the inside. Do you have to explain common sense to them?
Whatever Geriner has learned about the offense is adequate given he has the best arm. Yes its Georgia and they will be bringing heat, particularly after watching the A&M film. But what else are we going to do, give the receivers those flags they use on aircraft carriers to entice the QB to actually look on the other side of the field when they are wide open???
And for those who say "well he is 3rd string for a reason" Asante would like to have a conversation with you.....
I get it, he "doesnt see the field, blah blah blah". That was the reason to start Thorne. Well its obvious Thorne cant see the field OR throw the ball.
And still a lot of it is on the receivers. Check the one pass Geriner threw five yards behind the receiver on the sideline. He expected the receiver to cut TOOOOOO the sideline away from the safety and corner so he could throw a safe pass and the friggin receiver cuts to the inside. Do you have to explain common sense to them?
Whatever Geriner has learned about the offense is adequate given he has the best arm. Yes its Georgia and they will be bringing heat, particularly after watching the A&M film. But what else are we going to do, give the receivers those flags they use on aircraft carriers to entice the QB to actually look on the other side of the field when they are wide open???
And for those who say "well he is 3rd string for a reason" Asante would like to have a conversation with you.....
This post was edited on 9/24/23 at 9:06 am
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:08 am to trinidadtiger
Freeze has to decide if Thorne is a multi year starter or not. Someone will have to take the reps/lumps the next few months. You gotta give it to the guy starting in September 24.
Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:13 am to trinidadtiger
It will be interesting to see what Hugh’s next steps will be. He knows QB’s 1&2 are shite. I don’t know why Geriner doesn’t even get a glimpse other than seeing the line get their shite pushed in yesterday, he may not be mobile enough.
I agree, give the young man a shot.
I agree, give the young man a shot.
Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:21 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
I agree. The reality is that we are just bad. Let’s take our lumps. Yesterday was probably the worse offensive showing I can recall.
Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:27 am to AUmemphis
After Cal game they should have been preparing Holden and working on Robby’s passing which has gotten better when he doesn’t make a bonehead pass on the run trying to be a hero. You would think with our O coaches and qb assistants they would know this. So what exactly is the issue?
Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:53 am to AUarch79
I understand he has not been getting a lot of practice with the number one offense. But consider this, if he is running the scout team.....its against the number ones of our DBs which is a darn good squad.
Even installing a piece of our offense is better than reverting to Robble and a triple wing wishbone, whatever, running offensive (spelling intended).
Even installing a piece of our offense is better than reverting to Robble and a triple wing wishbone, whatever, running offensive (spelling intended).
Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:55 am to AUarch79
I think the entire approach to the offense is flawed. It is built on having a good QB and good receivers and we don't have that. We have good Running backs. We have two receivers that can make plays, Fair and Hooks. We have good TE's.
We need to take all the three, four, and five wide formations out of the offense. WE don't have the players for that nor do we have a QB that can execute it.
We need to try to build a solid running game and use a pass game around it that our WR's and QB's can execute.
I don't think we are getting any benefit from rotating Ashford in. Pick one, live and die by it.
We need to take all the three, four, and five wide formations out of the offense. WE don't have the players for that nor do we have a QB that can execute it.
We need to try to build a solid running game and use a pass game around it that our WR's and QB's can execute.
I don't think we are getting any benefit from rotating Ashford in. Pick one, live and die by it.
Posted on 9/24/23 at 10:09 am to trinidadtiger
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Can we please just start Ashford
Posted on 9/24/23 at 10:50 am to AUmemphis
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Yesterday was probably the worse offensive showing I can recall.
You must not be old enough to remember that rousing 3-2 victory over MSU back in 2008. It was just as bad.
Posted on 9/24/23 at 10:50 am to AUmemphis
Double posted somehow. 
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 12:14 pm to trinidadtiger
quote:That doesn’t really matter. Scout team is run off cards and you may have like one predetermined read and you’ll generally know the defensive alignment ahead of the play. It’s not great reps for getting timing down with the starting WRs. Unfortunately QB probably benefits the least from scout team work.
But consider this, if he is running the scout team.....its against the number ones of our DBs which is a darn good squad.
On the flip side something like a corner gets man to man reps vs a starting WR. You gain a lot from working your technique against someone who should be better than you.
This post was edited on 9/24/23 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 9/24/23 at 12:24 pm to CharlesUFarley
quote:This is actually where we are right now. Every RB was at 6+ ypc against A&M. Our passing game is just so abysmal that it basically doesn’t exist.
We need to try to build a solid running game and use a pass game around it that our WR's and QB's can execute.
50 yards passing no QBR over 20 averaging under 3 ypa.
Posted on 9/24/23 at 12:32 pm to ALhunter
Robbie Ashford gives us our best chance to be competitive at this point. Holden hasn't had enough practice with the ones to get any kinda of timing down.
Posted on 9/24/23 at 12:56 pm to ALhunter
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That doesn’t really matter. Scout team is run off cards and you may have like one predetermined read and you’ll generally know the defensive alignment ahead of the play. It’s not great reps for getting timing down with the starting WRs. Unfortunately QB probably benefits the least from scout team work.
On the flip side something like a corner gets man to man reps vs a starting WR. You gain a lot from working your technique against someone who should be better than you.
I agree with the point on the timing of working with receivers but your second paragraph states the benefits of the scout defense working with the starting offense while your first paragraph discounts the scouting offense working with starting defense. There are benefits, thats why practices are run that way.
The point we are both making, they still have to complete the throw which we cant solve at this point and trying the same two QBs is not going to solve it.
I do remember back in spring Geriner completing passes to Fair, who to your point was not running with the ones so he had better timing/chemistry with him....plus he could recognize a good receiver when he saw him
Posted on 9/24/23 at 1:00 pm to jvilletiger25
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Ashford
So bad he couldn’t beat out Thorne for QB1. Ooof
Posted on 9/24/23 at 1:00 pm to trinidadtiger
Can holden run the zone read and make good decisions? That seems to be the focal point of our offense at this point. I haven't seen enough of him to know if he is a real threat to run.
Posted on 9/24/23 at 1:58 pm to trinidadtiger
quote:Practices are run with scout teams so that the first team offense and first team defense can be preparing for an opponent at the same time. The purpose is certainly not to give "quality reps" to the scout team - that's a secondary benefit. Usually scout team is 3rd string or lower because coaches want the 1s and 2s watching the first team even when they're not in i.e. taking "mental reps".
I agree with the point on the timing of working with receivers but your second paragraph states the benefits of the scout defense working with the starting offense while your first paragraph discounts the scouting offense working with starting defense. There are benefits, thats why practices are run that way.
Because the scout team is 3rd string or worse, those guys usually need fundamental work. An example on the offense is left tackle pass blocking a defensive end. Very often he's blocking a starting end so deficiencies in his technique are glaringly obvious and he can work to improve that stuff until he's good enough to be in the 2 deep.
When the QB needs to know his offense like the back of his hand, read a defense in about 2 seconds and let the ball rip, scout team isn't a great preparation for making reads while running your own offense.
Posted on 9/24/23 at 2:21 pm to ALhunter
Jang is that you 
He seems very intelligent in interviews, many times I have heard comments about the players thinking he is the best passer, as reflected in the fact they wanted him passing during pro day. If he can understand the nuances of everything the coaches want, strip it down and mix with the runs as others have said.
His passing motion is a thing of beauty, he may never start for Auburn (but he will somewhere else), but that release is a thing of beauty. Once he decides, the ball comes out of his hand like Dan Marino, just a flick of the wrist.
He seems very intelligent in interviews, many times I have heard comments about the players thinking he is the best passer, as reflected in the fact they wanted him passing during pro day. If he can understand the nuances of everything the coaches want, strip it down and mix with the runs as others have said.
His passing motion is a thing of beauty, he may never start for Auburn (but he will somewhere else), but that release is a thing of beauty. Once he decides, the ball comes out of his hand like Dan Marino, just a flick of the wrist.
Posted on 9/24/23 at 2:28 pm to trinidadtiger
Geriner sucks too is probably why we won’t just start Geriner
Posted on 9/24/23 at 2:47 pm to trinidadtiger
quote:I'm not saying we don't start him. In another thread I said we should take the view that we have 3 weeks to prepare for LSU and start giving him reps with the 1s. Very telling that guys on the team wanted him for pro day. Players know who throws the best ball.
He seems very intelligent in interviews, many times I have heard comments about the players thinking he is the best passer, as reflected in the fact they wanted him passing during pro day. If he can understand the nuances of everything the coaches want, strip it down and mix with the runs as others have said.
The take that scout team gives a QB "quality reps" is just a bad take though. Geriner needs at least a couple of weeks with the ones if that's the direction they take the team he needs to get call it 70-80% of the reps with the 1s the next three weeks to have a chance.
This post was edited on 9/24/23 at 2:49 pm
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