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re: Would The Board (Here not on campus) Be Happy With Kiffin?

Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:15 am to
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
14174 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:15 am to
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He is nothing special.


Now answer my question.

Kiffin is about 5% against anyone good. Now explain why that equals a good HC?
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 8:27 am
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50771 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:17 am to
I have no clue what that means.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9961 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:18 am to
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Kiffin is about 5% against anyone good.


You keep saying this, and we keep telling you it isn't true, then.. you keep saying this.

Answer me this, why is Cohen gonna beg Lane to come take the Auburn job, yet Hugh Freeze is begging every power 5 school for a job?
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 8:19 am
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14389 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:20 am to
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Uhh, try using a company phone to call hookers.
No doubt that was bad. Apparently he gave into lust, which unfortunately is all too common. That being said, he apologized and asked for forgiveness. If his wife, the victim, can forgive him then and accept that he's changed then so can I. Water under the bridge.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9961 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:24 am to
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No doubt that was bad. Apparently he gave into lust, which unfortunately is all too common. That being said, he apologized and asked for forgiveness. If his wife, the victim, can forgive him then and accept that he's changed then so can I. Water under the bridge.


This is all besides the point. No one is condemning him to hell for it. The context is that other coaches will use it to negative recruit him. The context is that he will be the face of our hundred million dollar football program. The context is that he is going to be a leader of young men when there are other good options available.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
14174 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:28 am to
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I have no clue what that means.
I'm sure. It means he can not win big games and hasn't no matter where he has been or his talent level. We play big games.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
14174 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:30 am to
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You keep saying this, and we keep telling you it isn't true, then.. you keep saying this.
Its because Kiffin fans are in denial. It's why they avoid who his wins are actually against that they are bragging about. Arkansas last year is his best win at OM and they lost 4 games. All the good teams beat him.
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 8:32 am
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14389 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:31 am to
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This is all besides the point. No one is condemning him to hell for it. The context is that other coaches will use it to negative recruit him. The context is that he will be the face of our hundred million dollar football program. The context is that he is going to be a leader of young men when there are other good options available.

Yeah, those 17/18 y/o recruits really care about a guy cheating on his wife a bunch of years ago. They might be more concerned about running into Joey Freshwater at the college bars, though.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14389 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:32 am to
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I'm sure. It means he can not win big games and hasn't no matter where he has been or his talent level. We play big games.

But, but, but.....this time it will be different!
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23768 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:33 am to
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He's kinda known for being aloof with the boosters AND the fans.

Must be why Tennessee was so devastated when he left and why Ole Miss have given him 3 contracts in 3 years to try and keep him around, huh?
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Weird you brought up USC.Did you not know he was fired immedialtely after a road loss and wasn't even allowed to travel back home with the team?

I'm completely aware and think USC was impatient and made a mistake firing him. They've been wandering in the wilderness since until they landed Riley. I brought up USC in the context of your comment where you basically said Kiffin doesn't know how to handle the money people. Which is incredibly stupid.
Posted by Blueline379
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2016
1281 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:34 am to
I'm starting to think there a several freeze alters on this board.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23768 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:34 am to
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If his wife, the victim, can forgive him then and accept that he's changed then so can I. Water under the bridge.

I didn't say I couldn't or haven't. I DGAF about it honestly.

But that doesn't mean every other head coach won't seize on that with every single parent of recruits who are thinking of playing for the guy.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50771 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:38 am to
I can’t care less about Kiffin’s results when he was a brat. I care about the window of success post Nick Saban rehab. His offense plus our willingness to help him put together a formidable defense will win big games.


Just because he hasn’t done something there that does not mean he cannot do it here and vice versa
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
14174 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:47 am to
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But, but, but.....this time it will be different!
They know and it's why they won't answer the question with a real response. They just say it won't happen if he's at Auburn. It's the same reason they get made fun of on rant.
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 8:48 am
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14389 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:57 am to
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But that doesn't mean every other head coach won't seize on that with every single parent of recruits who are thinking of playing for the guy.

Let me get this straight. You really thing the average 17/18 y/o athlete cares about a dude cheating on his wife, several years ago, and will pick a school over another one because of that? You might want to look into the music that is very popular with the kids these days for some insight. Yep, Kirby is going to try a sway a kid away from Freeze by throwing that in his face.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19592 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:08 am to
Why don't you and Rabern just write a check to Freezus' church in Lynchburg and be done with it?

He's not going to be AU's HC. Ever.

Get used to it.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50771 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:11 am to
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They know and it's why they won't answer the question with a real response. They just say it won't happen if he's at Auburn. It's the same reason they get made fun of on rant.

What makes you think we would let it happen in Auburn? We didnt let it happen with good offense Gus, and especially not with bad offense Gus. In 2015 Jay Jacobs literally gave Malzahn a blank check to go get Muschamp. What makes you think Lane's defense is even halfway as talented as Auburn's has been on a consistent basis? Lane has made moves trying to improve the defense through the portal by picking up players such as Tennison and Pegues, but until the program makes a real effort to shore up the defensive coaching staff, DC's will just use Mississippi as a stepping stone.

As Auburnnyc has said the great thing about Lane is he is offensively a less risky Gus, and all we have to do is use our same energy we felt while beefing up the defense and our best years can be ahead of us. For many years Gus let our offense be led astray because he would not adjust to our strengths or to the ever evolving game. Our offense performed horribly despite our earnest efforts to hire Gus to be the mastermind behind a great offense on the plains. Lane doesnt experience those lows. He has never not been successful on offense. I have no dount in my mind even if Lane did lose a shootout it would still be better than the 28-3 abdominations under Gus.
Posted by aubiecat
Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
5894 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:14 am to
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He's not going to be AU's HC. Ever.

Get used to it.

Especially while Cohen is here.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
14174 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:17 am to
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He's not going to be AU's HC. Ever.

Get used to it.
And Kiffin is going to change his ways and save Auburn. Ever.

And not a out of talent or DC is going to fix it. Coaches are who they are. He's been around long enough to show who he is and his flaws. The fact his fans dodge him losing 95% of the big games says enough.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50771 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:24 am to
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Especially while Cohen is here.

He helped build the case against Freeze. This much should be obvious by now. Begging for the guy that is at Liberty that is begging for the Auburn job is actually how Auburn fans get made fun on the rant. Nebraska has needed a coach since week 3 so dont you think they would want the Freeze that Raberns claims him to be? Does Nebraska not care about a guy that can coach offense, coach defense, recruit, and kiss babies? If not, they must be at band camp.

To steal from metafour: Kiffin is a ferrari while Freeze is a fricking Kia.
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