re: What are we doing, seriously?????

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Why didn't Gus care to beat Georgia?

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Good Lord. We’re firing coaches because they lose to Georgia? Get ready for a revolving carousel of coaching changes to continue.

Georgia is 61-6 against SEC teams not named Alabama since Kirby’s second season. One of those six wins was Gus’ blowout win over them in 2017.

LSU has two wins against UGA since ‘17… Florida has one. S Carolina has one. And Ole Miss has one. That’s it. There are ten SEC programs that can’t claim a win over Georgia since 2017. Are we making beating them the new standard?

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That is a lie.

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No it is not. From 2017-2020, Auburn was 33-18 overall.

We were 1-2 against the eventual national champion.
We were 1-2 against the eventual runner-up
We were 1-3 against Final AP #s 3-5
We were 1-7 against Final AP #s 6-10

In all other games, Auburn was 29-4 during those four seasons.

CFB Teams 2017-2020 with the fewest losses to teams outside the Final AP Top 10:

1- Alabama
1- Clemson
2- Ohio State
2- Georgia
3- Oklahoma
3- Notre Dame
4- Auburn
7- LSU
7- Wisconsin
7- Texas A&M
8- Penn State
9- Florida
10- Washington

That’s it. Gus lost four games in four seasons to teams that didn’t finish in the Top 10 during his final four seasons…seventh fewest in the nation during that time.

Yall fired Gus because he wasn’t winning national titles and he didn’t win enough against very elite teams in your mind. But just like yall are doing now, you are not allowing the difficulty of the schedule to be taken into account.

Auburn played 18 games against Final AP Top 10 teams between 2017-2020. The next closest to that number in the entire country was LSU and Alabama with just 12. Auburn played 33% more games against Top 10 opponents than anyone else in the entire country.

Auburn was a very solid program from 2017-2020, but unfortunately we played a ridiculously difficult schedule, and fans were too stupid to see that context.

And we’re paying the price for that stupidity.

Here is stat from Charlie5 for FUD789:

Between Oklahoma, A&M, Georgia, and Missouri Auburn had ten opportunities to tie or win the game in the end.

They converted on one out of 10 just for the defense to let Oklahoma score and then we couldn't convert again.

The other 9 drives? 35 plays for 24 yards.

4 of those drives went for negative yards.

That's not a difficult schedule talking. That's not performing period. If you can perform in the first half you can perform in the second half.

Whoa man, don't "pick apart" those losses too much! Those were all Top 15 ranked teams!

These things happen! You just gotta stick it out until the wind changes course and starts blowing in your direction :)

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By whom?
6-6 1st yr
7-6 with bowl
7-5 2nd yr (signed #5 class)
8-5 with bowl
9-3 3rd yr
9-4 Blown out by TCU in peach bowl
9-3 4th yr
10-3 with Bowl Then the scandal hit...
5-7 5th yr

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This is highly disingenuous. You left off his 10-2 record at Arkansas State where both losses were to Power 5 opponents.

Then you retype his record twice for each season at Ole Miss to show a before and after bowl record for some odd reason

7-6
8-5
9-4
10-3
5-7

With 9 wins over ranked teams. Only the most successful coach at Ole Miss up to that time since Johnny Vaught.

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Liberty
8-5
10-1
8-5
8-4
Please point out the great success?

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I never said it was “great success” dipshit. I said his record at Arkansas State+Liberty was very comparable to Sumrall’s record at Troy+Tulane. And I showed the numbers to prove it.

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bullshite from the top of my head Jeff Brohm
Curt Cignetti
Brent Key (although he was at GTech as interim)

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You have to go back to 2022.

Cignetti was 61 years old and had ONE full season of head coaching an FBS level team on his resume. He was 8-3 that year. If we had hired Cignetti in 2022, the outcry from the public and the media would have been very Gene Chizik-esq.

Jeff Brohm’s record at Purdue was not impressive.

2017: 7-6
2018: 6-7
2019: 4-8
2020: 2-4
2021: 9-4
2022: 8-5

Who was clamoring to hire Purdue’s coach who had 34-36 overall record there through six seasons???

Brent Key was an interim coach at Georgia Tech for like 4 games in 2022. Why would we have hired him then?

Get out of here with this shite. No one was clamoring for Cignetti, Brohm, or Key back in 2022 and had we hired any of them, people would have melted down in protest.

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No one was clamoring for Cignetti, Brohm, or Key back in 2022

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BigBens, Slacker, Freep and others might want a word for you. Cignetti was definitely mentioned.

Nobody wanted Hugh either except for maybe 5 here.

Great question we might need to go all in on Lebby by then.

Not gonna lie I am pretty sure Brohm was mentioned by someone then as well. Doesn't matter. The popularity contest doesn't matter.

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This is highly disingenuous. You left off his 10-2 record at Arkansas State where both losses were to Power 5 opponents.

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Never included it because you were talking about his time at ol miss
Your failure not mine.

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Exactly this. Freeze’s record at Ole Miss was admirable considering that he inherited. He won 9 games against ranked opponents.

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Then you retype his record twice for each season at Ole Miss to show a before and after bowl record for some odd reason

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yes to show bowl W/Ls so it is fairly obvious not to inflate or deflate regular season record.

So point out his Admirable Record. What 2 wins against Saban. Go get the Senator back. He beat him 4 times. Or go and get Gus back he beat him a few times 3W 5L. Lets go find someone who has beat DeBore a few times. As Freeze can't get it done.

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I never said it was “great success” dipshit.

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Your right you said "Admirable" Go Look at your post not your second one where you added all of the Arky State wins to make you look better but he inherited a good program there.

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You have to go back to 2022.

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I Did. They were available

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Cignetti was 61 years old and had ONE full season of head coaching an FBS level team on his resume. He was 8-3 that year. If we had hired Cignetti in 2022, the outcry from the public and the media would have been very Gene Chizik-esq.

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bullshite. You never looked further back at his record. He won every year that he has been at. & had a DC that has been with him for over 11 years. Go look at the programs he built up rather quickly. He Transitioned JMU to FBS so go look at his record before that. Oh, also take a look at his players that he recruited. What you may not know is that when he took over UI a lot went with him. Like they did when he went to JMU. The dude has experience. Who cares that he is 61. He runs an exciting RPO offense & plays a good D. Always has. But you probably don't look at that. You just type a record and call it admirable. So he has also been to the playoffs where Freeze hasn't. Don't discount that. All before NIL His 2 years at Indy has been much better than what we have been putting out. Oh & he got a QB that beat our arse as a back up who may be a high draft pick. QB development or even talent eval?

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Jeff Brohm’s record at Purdue was not impressive.

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True but NIL is a game changer. Go to a school that helps with NIL & recruiting becomes way easier. We will see if he can maintain. Again wasn't my first choice but he has done better than Freeze.

Again Key was a good Coordinator and I do believe we were talking maybe going after a good coordinator. So who was your pick? Freeze, Kiffin, Sanders?

I am just pointing out where you were wrong about Freeze.

People may have melted but people who really look at what is put on the field, recruit & now with NIL see what they have to spend & the product they put on the field plus look at their background know that Freeze wasn't the answer & never was. He paid for a top 5 class got caught up tried to do the redemption tour for about 6 years and NO ONE TOUCHED HIM. There were many openings during that time.

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They're our rivals. When did that stop mattering? When did you get fricking neutered to thinking losing to them was acceptable?

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Every Auburn fan wants to beat Georgia.. or bama… or any rival.

But at some point, if you fire a coach because he’s losing to the national champion every year, you’re never going to have a coach

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frick the diffucult schedule. It is only going to get harder.

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Going to the 9-game format will make schedules more uniform in strength across the SEC. When you play every team at least every other year, everyone’s schedule will be more difficult.

The issue Gus had was he had to play 18 games against Top 10 teams in a four year period, while other teams in the SEC were playing 7 or 8. Of course his record suffered!

To pretend there isn’t a difference is ignoring reality.

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But at some point, if you fire a coach because he’s losing to the national champion every year, you’re never going to have a coach

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This is that disingenuous bullshite you keep doing. We have lost 18 out of last 20. Nevermind their two year championship stretch. We need to beat them when they are bad, average, decent, and so on. How did your fearless leader fare against them in the second half this year?

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The issue Gus had was he had to play 18 games against Top 10 teams in a four year period, while other teams in the SEC were playing 7 or 8. Of course his record suffered!

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This is just whiny. Auburn has always had among the toughest records. Our schedule next year will be incredibly hard just like usual, but we still play and when we are on the field we need to look for wins. The pity party has to stop dude.