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Posted on 5/2/22 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 1:28 pm to
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I think every single one of their stocks dropped after a year in Masons defense. Even McCreary.. they said he was a potential 1st until this year where he seemed like he struggled more.

This is just wrong. His stock soared on what he did in Mason's defense this year and tanked when the scouts and GM's got to see his measurables.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19207 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 1:35 pm to
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Playing a bunch of soft zone hurt his stock.

Jesus dude. His ESPN eval on the draft pages said something like he would fit best with a team that plays a bunch of press man or a 3/press. Maybe even make a move to nickel to cover slot guys due to his size limitations.

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Pre-Draft Analysis

McCreary is sticky with quick feet, impressive body control and good short-area burst. He fits best in a defense that features heavy press-man and/or Cover-3 press-zone. He primarily played on the outside at Auburn, but he has experience playing over the slot and might fit best there in the NFL, considering his average size and short arms. McCreary needs to be more physical and aggressive in run support. -- Steve Muench


Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3599 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 3:29 pm to
McCreary was as high as Top 15 in earlier mock drafts this year. Again, his stock "fell" after he was measured as having t-rex arms and ran "only" a 4.5. Every single CB that went above him was either taller, longer, faster...or all three at the same time.

Kaiir Elam, the CB from Florida, didn't even have an objectively great season and went in the 1st round to the Bills. He was WAY better in 2020 for Florida and every scouting report states that. That blows out the entire idea that McCreary "fell" for any on-field or schematic reasons. The difference between Elam and McCreary is that Elam is 6'1.5 and ran a 4.39 forty with a 37.5" vertical (McCreary was pretty pedestrian here too with just a 31.5" vertical).
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19207 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 6:43 pm to
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McCreary was as high as Top 15 in earlier mock drafts this year. Again, his stock "fell" after he was measured as having t-rex arms and ran "only" a 4.5. Every single CB that went above him was either taller, longer, faster...or all three at the same time.

Exactly. Playing "soft zone in Mason's defense" is not at all what happened to his draft stock. We are in agreement.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 6:59 pm to
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McCreary was as high as Top 15 in earlier mock drafts this year. Again, his stock "fell" after he was measured as having t-rex arms and ran "only" a 4.5. Every single CB that went above him was either taller, longer, faster...or all three at the same time.

Kaiir Elam, the CB from Florida, didn't even have an objectively great season and went in the 1st round to the Bills. He was WAY better in 2020 for Florida and every scouting report states that. That blows out the entire idea that McCreary "fell" for any on-field or schematic reasons. The difference between Elam and McCreary is that Elam is 6'1.5 and ran a 4.39 forty with a 37.5" vertical (McCreary was pretty pedestrian here too with just a 31.5" vertical).

I hope your expert testimony posts decrease moving forward. You do this shite on On3 as well. You post like a feral cat expert on all things Auburn Football. Calm down. You're not special.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3599 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 9:12 pm to
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I hope your expert testimony posts decrease moving forward. You do this shite on On3 as well. You post like a feral cat expert on all things Auburn Football. Calm down. You're not special.



Awww, I have a follower! Thanks man!
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 9:19 pm to
A critic, not a follower. Carry on my wayward son.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33333 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 9:26 pm to
metafour is part of our delicate Aubie board ecosystem. Every good sports board needs the guy that’s got it all figured out
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36458 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 9:32 pm to
He is right here. The knocks against can be shallow (should’ve been used differently, woulda shoulda coulda) but if he had better measurables he would have been taken higher.

PFF said he graded as the best CB this year.

That’s no small feat and I believe the coaches allowed him to succeed
Posted by Nerd
Member since Dec 2019
876 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 9:53 pm to
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I hope your expert testimony posts decrease moving forward. You do this shite on On3 as well. You post like a feral cat expert on all things Auburn Football. Calm down. You're not special.


Lmao literally everything he said is spot on wtf
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:04 pm to
lol nerd. Which part?
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:12 pm to
OMG LOL WTF.

How about we communicate like we aren't eleven years old, Howdy Dudy.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33333 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:12 pm to
If I’m behind honest I’ve only red 2-3 posts in this thread & None were metafour’s

Not really giving an opinion on the issue at hand. Just providing some context on the man himself. Necessary poster in the ecosystem
This post was edited on 5/2/22 at 10:18 pm
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
16580 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 10:17 pm to
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metafour is part of our delicate Aubie board ecosystem. Every good sports board needs the guy that’s got it all figured out


Meta isn’t walking in here stealing my title that easy.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24930 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:38 am to
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surprise that McClain wasnt drafted.
travesty
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24930 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 12:41 am to
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You post like a feral cat expert on all things Auburn Football. Calm down. You're not special
Why are you taking it so personal? He made valid points
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28898 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 7:02 am to
McCreary is an awesome DB, reminds me alot of Revis in size and footwork. He owns his territory.

Smoke might make a special teams kickoff team since he runs in a straight line.

I miss the days of 2004 when we had caddy, Carlos rogers, Ronnie brown and Jason Campbell taken in the first round.

We need to quickly tap into the NIL market while it’$ legal.
Posted by AUDevil
Somewhere
Member since Jul 2016
704 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 7:03 am to
Meta’s one of my top 5 favorite posters…cuts to the chase, knowledgeable, and isn’t afraid to have an unpopular opinion.
Posted by Nerd
Member since Dec 2019
876 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 9:15 am to
quote:

Which part?


I literally said literally everything
Posted by auburn2eugene
Now back in Oneonta Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1097 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 9:23 am to
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McCreary was the highest graded corner in the draft


I normally agree with almost everything you say, but I have a VERY hard time believing McCreary was the highest graded corner in any draft that contained Derek Stingley Jr
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