re: Total players lost to the portal since Jan 1st

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I just wonder what changed for him so late to want to transfer?

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He liked Eason and Mason; both guys are gone now. It was his direct position coach and the guy who oversaw/controlled the side of the field he played on. That was enough to keep him here despite whatever way he felt about Harsin.

He could still be turned around, but it didn't sound too promising yesterday. The main thing that probably helps us is the timing - he's much more limited in terms of his ability to transfer and be immediately eligible than he would have been had this popped off a month ago.

And I mentioned during the whole investigation drama that there were still numerous players on the team who most definitely were not "pro Harsin". The idea that the team fully supported him was nonsense.

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SO do we know which side of Harsin CW was on?

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He was one of the people who ended up on instagram live talking about Harsin. I don't remember exact quotes or anything, but generally it didn't sound like he liked Harsin.

So he may not be on the Coach Harsin train.

But the Eli Gravett’s like him so all is well.

Wooden must be sAUft iyam.

Does Caleb Wooden follow suit?

He has also tried to down play the transfer situation. It's mind boggling

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These are the example of that. Bama needed to lose 17 players after signing a full class and bringing in 3 transfers.Auburn, however, did not need to lose 20

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There's also a difference between a 4/5 star recruit sitting behind another 4/5 star player and getting tired of waiting vs leaving in our situation where our roster is already thin.

Edit-- Wooden is staying per Phillip Dukes

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These are the example of that. Bama needed to lose 17 players after signing a full class and bringing in 3 transfers.Auburn, however, did not need to lose 20

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Exactly. They "lost" 17, most of whom were buried on the depth chart and weren't expected to play. The Drew Sanders kid is the only one I remember off the top of my head that looks promising, and even he left because he got bypassed on the depth chart. The 3 they brought in (Burton, Gibbs, Ricks) were literally the top players at their respective position in the Portal (Burton is debatable with Mario Williams - they're 1A and 1B). They signed the #2 ranked HS class in the country. So they processed a bunch of guys who weren't expected to contribute, to make room for a new wave of potential studs.

That is a completely different situation than what is happening here. Yes, there was an initial wave of guys who left because they were buried on the depth chart, but we've moved past that and have started losing guys who played and/or were expected to play major snaps next season. And there hasn't been anything done to replace that depth. So we're bleeding talent and depth off of an already weak team, and it's being replaced by a just "acceptable" 2022 HS class and an initial
Portal class that is light, and which missed on several obvious areas of need. It's not a good situation at all. The highly contested guys they DID go after in the Portal, literally all signed elsewhere.

They're going to bring in a bunch of post-spring Portal guys, but at this point barring a significant change in recruiting, I don't expect those guys to be "upgrades" to what we lost. Shortly before the whole Harsin drama popped off, Jeff Lee listed a name of a new Edge target they were seriously pursuing from the Portal - the kid is a 5th year Senior who was a backup for Washington State and never put up more than 2.5 sacks in a single season. That's not going to be good enough at this level, to fix this football team. The Asante kid they took at LB was literally a backup at North Carolina.

Auburn vs. Alabama in the Portal isn't even remotely comparable. It's a completely intellectually dishonest argument to suggest otherwise.

Metafour stop making so much sense. Makes my head hurt. We can only deal in emotions and want on here.

Anyone not concerned about how we have fared in the transfer portal is being dishonest or in denial. It is definitely a concern when even Mizzou has added significant help to their recruiting.

I honestly was expecting way more signees in the portal of significance to offset all that had left and some of the misses in recruiting. I feel even more uncomfortable with where our OL sits today and lack of help at WR. For those of you who support Harsin as I do it’s okay to still recognize the weaknesses and areas of concern.