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re: This is a very very bad team

Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:08 pm to
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:08 pm to
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One of the reasons why Coach Caddy was “successful” last year is because in the back of our minds we all knew it was just for the short term and we didn’t even expect him to win a game, really. And just wanted to get rid of Potato gang. He did us a favor and was already a hero in AU lore. Don’t kid yourself and think we would be better off with him this year. All the rah rah stuff would get real old real fast if we were losing every week, which we would be. Only positive I could entertain is that we would definitely have an offensive identity of running the ball, which would be nice I can’t lie. It’s mind-numbing to watch this offense do a whole lot of nothing.

I can agree with that. Carnell was essentially playing with house money. He inherited such a bad situation that he ended up with zero skin at risk. I actually think people saw that last stretch and gave too much of RA's credit to Cadillac. Carnell stayed fired up on the sidelines but it was Ashford that didnt quit and kept his fire the whole season. Ashford isnt a great thrower but he earned my respect last year.
Posted by TailbackU
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:17 pm to
Defense played lights out until 4th qtr. A team can’t keep shouting themselves in the foot on offense and expect the defense to keep getting the ball back. Our defense needed something to happen on offense and we just couldn’t make anything happen. Thorne sucks and our play calling was arse in the 2nd half.
This post was edited on 10/21/23 at 11:18 pm
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18866 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 5:47 am to
Its 3rd and 6 and its a timing pattern across the middle, the receiver turns, the ball is not there, wait another beat, it finally comes and then the defender is in position and easily knocks it away....the camera pans back and the receiver has run a three yard pattern,

So did the QB hesitate afraid he would overthrow because the pattern was short? Can the receiver not measure six yards or look at the sticks when he turns. Who the frick knows but a coach cant run the play, and he cant fix stupid.

All day long I watched other teams, receiver sees a soft spot in the zone cuts, and the ball is thrown to him, its done in backyards all across America, what is so difficult?

If Geriner does not get some playing time we end this season with less answers than we had the end of last. Im not saying Geriner is the answer, I am saying the two in front of him arent and we are about to waste a lot of playing time on people who are not our future. At least we know we will have to do or die in the portal, and for who, Vandagriff, who has proven no more than Geriner.
Posted by AUmemphis
Member since Jan 2023
743 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:28 am to
Last night the play calling killed us. Period. Killed our chances at least.

The defense held a high powered offense to 28 points. Got a turnover.

We had 0 creative play calls.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:34 am to
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We had 0 creative play calls.

We had a double pass play to Gernier

Gus 2.0
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
8943 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:03 am to
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Might be the worst Auburn team I’ve seen since 2012.


I think 2012 might have had more talent, they just quit.

This team hasn't quit, but they just aren't good or well coached.
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:14 am to
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We had 0 creative play calls.



We need 0 creative play calls.

We need simple and well executed.

We need plays that high schools run across America, where they recognize the coverage and adjust. WRs run simple routes without asking our inept O line to block longer than 3 seconds and QB throws the ball quickly. Opens some running game and allows play action to be effective.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50724 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:17 am to
2012 Auburn easily had more talent. Even the 2012 recruiting class doesnt look as bad anymore.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25228 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:39 am to
So far it is not really a team with an identity of its own. It's just a bunch of guys playing football.
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
3964 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 11:03 am to
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We had a double pass play to Gernier



That the OM sideline was screaming about before the ball was even snapped.
CHF couldn't have telegraphed that one any better if he sent a messenger over to Kiffin before they broke the huddle.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50724 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 11:18 am to
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That the OM sideline was screaming about before the ball was even snapped.
CHF couldn't have telegraphed that one any better if he sent a messenger over to Kiffin before they broke the huddle.

The only "tell" was Holden running onto the field. Anybody that saw that knew to be on high alert for it


So yeah I dont care much for that trick play but I think you are making this something different- more about Hugh and less about the generality of that weak play call.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 11:33 am to
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Defense played lights out until 4th qtr
Number 13 should never see the field again now that keys is back. 13 and 32. Riley and Steiner. They both are in the same category as Jake Holland. Sadly, i think they are worse
Posted by threedog79
Member since Sep 2013
3791 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 12:41 pm to
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as Jake Holland.


Holy crap! I blocked that for a while now. Thanks for bringing it back up…back to my therapist.
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
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Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:36 pm to
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The only "tell" was Holden running onto the field. Anybody that saw that knew to be on high alert for it


So yeah I dont care much for that trick play but I think you are making this something different- more about Hugh and less about the generality of that weak play call.



I believe you just made my point. If you are going to try something like that it has to be subtle, not trotting out your 3rd string QB at WR when he hasn't seen the field in 3 or 4 games.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50724 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:41 pm to
Its a pretty poorly disguised play. It would require running Holden out a lot at WR to be a decoy just to set them asleep and that's no good.


If the backup was Ashford or Kodi Burns. Phenomenal play.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 2:43 pm
Posted by AUmemphis
Member since Jan 2023
743 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 3:07 pm to
I don’t mean creative like Gus, or gimmicky. I mean SMART. Smart for our personnel.

A stupid play to Holden was just that….STUPID. Not creative. Not Smart. Everyone in the stadium saw it coming. I just mean at the end we opened it up and passed. Where was that in the third quarter?
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 3:28 pm
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
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Member since Jan 2021
3964 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 3:45 pm to
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I don’t mean creative like Gus, or gimmicky. I mean SMART. Smart for our personnel.

A stupid play to Holden was just that….STUPID. Not creative. Not Smart. Everyone in the stadium saw it coming. I just mean at the end we opened it up and passed. Where was that in the third quarter?




I agree about the stupid trick play.

When we started passing late in the game it was because we had no choice. OM was sitting back and keeping everything in front of them making us burn clock to move the ball. That is the only reason we looked remotely competent throwing the ball at that point. IMHO.
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
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Member since Jan 2021
3964 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 3:48 pm to
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Its a pretty poorly disguised play. It would require running Holden out a lot at WR to be a decoy just to set them asleep and that's no good.


If the backup was Ashford or Kodi Burns. Phenomenal play.




You would think at least one of our WRs could throw the ball 20-30 yards to a wide open guy. If we are going to try that kind of a play maybe use someone who is on the field often and won't attract attention. Worst case scenario is it turns into a screen pass if they sniff it out and cover the guy sneaking downfield, then the guy with the ball is actually used to carrying it in traffic.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50724 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 3:54 pm to
Again, Ashford has an amazing skillset for that trick play. Ashford might even have a great skillset at either of RB and WR. Even if he doesn't the first defense doesn't know that. Sneak that wrinkle in there and see what we can get cooking.


But no: Ashford and Jville and Freeze are loyal to proving Ashford can only take snaps under the gun.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 4:04 pm
Posted by AUmemphis
Member since Jan 2023
743 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 5:12 pm to
That’s true. But we had 20 yards passing before those last two drives. We really didn’t throw it or even threaten to throw it.

Granted there were drops-.
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