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re: The coaching list
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:34 am to Pettifogger
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:34 am to Pettifogger
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Franklin may not need to change anything. He won 13 games last year.
Gus Malzahn won 9 games and beat a Top 5 ranked Bama team the year before he got fired. I've already exposed Penn State's 13 wins from last season. He's not going to be playing winless Wisconsin, rebuilding Nebraska, Maryland, etc. for 90% of his schedule at a school like Auburn. Have you seen who we play next season?
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He knows how to manage a bigger program than Auburn and did it over a long tenure. He has a successful history in the SEC. He's pretty cold and calculating and thinks Penn State acted to hastily and wants to prove he's right.
You can say this about literally every failed coach at a big-name program:
Jimbo Fisher knew how to manage a big program for a long time (FSU). Jimbo Fisher was itching to prove that FSU was wrong for not giving him what he wanted when he took the A&M job.
Hugh Freeze was itching to get back into the SEC. Hugh Freeze was itching to prove himself after feeling that he was targeted by the NCAA and SEC for doing exactly what teams like Bama were brazenly getting away with.
Mark Richt had like 15 years of near consistent 10+ win seasons at UGA. Mark Richt had immense experience running a top program. Mark Richt was hungry to prove himself at his alma-mater of Miami after feeling that UGA incorrectly pulled the plug on him.
You are falling for meaningless non-factor rhetoric. Which is exactly what boosters and AD's do when they convince themselves that Joe Schmoe who won a hundred games in the past, but just got fired for completely losing their program in embarrassing fashion is actually a "safe choice" to rebuild your current school which doesn't even have a winning culture.
James Franklin completely lost his "winning culture" at Penn State with one overtime loss, and subsequently completely lost his team. And this is the guy who you think is a safe choice to instill a winning culture into an Auburn team that currently has none?
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:36 am to CorchJay
Other than having a slightly above average record in G5, give me the tangible qualifications.
This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 10:38 am
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:38 am to Pettifogger
my biggest issue with Franklin is this guy:
he’s made every AU admin grab their ankles since we hired Tubs
he’s made every AU admin grab their ankles since we hired Tubs
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:45 am to Pettifogger
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If the goal is getting the program back on track
Most parts of the program are on track right now!
We just need someone who will ensure production as far as scoring points and who won't screw up the rest.
Could be an offensive or defensive guy , young or old, but they need to have a tangible track record.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:45 am to metafour
Look, I'm happy to debate this stuff, but comparing Richt and Freeze to Franklin is intellectually dishonest (or otherwise unhelpful to your argument).
Freeze needs no further explanation, they're not in the same universe.
Richt went to Miami and subsequently won 26 games in 3 years, finishing ranked twice. If Auburn hired Franklin and he had a similar performance to Richt, I wouldn't have any major regrets.
This is a weird way to describe 5x 11 win seasons and a long tenure at a bigger program.
Is there some coach you're an advocate for we can put up against Franklin here? Because I get the sense you don't have an evidentiary case you can make for said candidate that isn't entirely predicated on ifs, buts and "rhetoric."
Freeze needs no further explanation, they're not in the same universe.
Richt went to Miami and subsequently won 26 games in 3 years, finishing ranked twice. If Auburn hired Franklin and he had a similar performance to Richt, I wouldn't have any major regrets.
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meaningless non-factor rhetoric.
This is a weird way to describe 5x 11 win seasons and a long tenure at a bigger program.
Is there some coach you're an advocate for we can put up against Franklin here? Because I get the sense you don't have an evidentiary case you can make for said candidate that isn't entirely predicated on ifs, buts and "rhetoric."
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:48 am to pdfield34
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Most parts of the program are on track right now!
Eh
I think recruiting and defense are on track. Culturally, there are clearly issues. And obviously the offensive side of the ball is a complete disaster.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:53 am to greygoose
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Why would we wait until the outcome of the Arky game?
The idiot is just playing the odds.
There is a good chance that we will have to fire him after Ark because this is Bobby P's Super Bowl and the score could get very, very lopsided. Defense can only hold up for so long.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:56 am to greygoose
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give up
The whole reason we are in this mess.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:12 am to Pettifogger
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And obviously the offensive side of the ball is a complete disaster.
Um ... No.
Besides tight end and depth at running back, the offense is SEC ready, talent wise.
A better coach could make 1 of 3 QBs at least semi-productive.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:22 pm to pdfield34
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A better coach could make 1 of 3 QBs at least semi-productive.
Don't think we have a QB issue.
Don't remember the podcast but someone with Bmarcello was saying he's talked to other coaches and Auburn is by far the easiest to scheme and prep for. Their offense doesn't do anything concept wise just basic shiiit.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:26 pm to pdfield34
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And obviously the offensive side of the ball is a complete disaster.
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Um ... No.
Yall are so worse than me at being argumentative.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:29 pm to jangalang
lol
To clarify for his benefit
I think the operations side of the offensive side of the ball is a disaster. I think there is plenty to work with there, but I'm also not how relevant that is if you're talking about a leadership change.
To clarify for his benefit
I think the operations side of the offensive side of the ball is a disaster. I think there is plenty to work with there, but I'm also not how relevant that is if you're talking about a leadership change.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:37 pm to Pettifogger
It's just easy to see, that this is not a rebuild where an organizer is first priority.
This is not post Chizik, Post Malzahn or post Harsin.
This is not post Chizik, Post Malzahn or post Harsin.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:39 pm to pdfield34
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Most parts of the program are on track right now!
6-5
6-7
5-7
6-7
5-7
3-4
Not sure what track you are talking about man...
This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:52 pm to wareagle7298
This is Poker Dough teenage kid when he gets interviewed about the Aubs.
Cant blame Jay Jacob, kid!
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This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 6:41 am
Posted on 10/21/25 at 2:34 am to Pettifogger
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If Auburn hired Franklin and he had a similar performance to Richt, I wouldn't have any major regrets
Just no....that is just settling as Franklin can't win the games that matter. His record is just that. Could he win here? Maybe but there is no easy win anymore. We need a good hardnosed coach who will whip the Offense into shape. They have talent but our scheme is rudimentary.
Our D has been putting in the effort. Offense not so much. For an RPO offense we have done much this year so it seems...I also don't think we have a slant in the darn playbook. I am not impressed with Franklin's O either. I also think he had some issue of a cover up at Vandy & if it is true then I don't want him at AU. I may not have it right but if he lied about it then no way.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:20 pm to 88TIger
Here is something I have been thinking on. Keep this in mind when thinking about possible coaches. How many coaches can you think of that have been fired from a previous job and won a national championship, played for a national championship, or even made a playoff with the new school that hired them?
I can think of Orgeron. Are there any others? (Not counting Pete Carroll because that was the pros)
Seems like there is a distinct track record of the next job being only mediocre at very best and awful at worst. Really something to think about.
I can think of Orgeron. Are there any others? (Not counting Pete Carroll because that was the pros)
Seems like there is a distinct track record of the next job being only mediocre at very best and awful at worst. Really something to think about.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:25 pm to 88TIger
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Just no....that is just settling as Franklin can't win the games that matter. His record is just that. Could he win here? Maybe but there is no easy win anymore. We need a good hardnosed coach who will whip the Offense into shape. They have talent but our scheme is rudimentary.
Our D has been putting in the effort. Offense not so much. For an RPO offense we have done much this year so it seems...I also don't think we have a slant in the darn playbook. I am not impressed with Franklin's O either. I also think he had some issue of a cover up at Vandy & if it is true then I don't want him at AU. I may not have it right but if he lied about it then no way.
Franklin is an all business coach - exactly what I want. I won't fight people who don't want him, but I think the reality is that he represents most of the cultural change people want.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:55 pm to Pettifogger
quote:maybe so, but with Sexton representing him, we will definitely overpay, and the cost if we’re wrong will likely be astronomical
Franklin is an all business coach - exactly what I want. I won't fight people who don't want him, but I think the reality is that he represents most of the cultural change people want.
with a young guy with a less impressive track record we’ve got some leverage if it goes south, and if it works out he’ll still make bank
Posted on 10/21/25 at 1:08 pm to FearlessFreep
My counterpoint would be that Franklin is getting his buyout money and can probably be had for 60% of what he would have cost a year ago.
Rolling the dice at 7.5 or so for James Franklin would just be a hard opportunity for me to pass up in favor of paying someone like Sumrall the same amount.
Rolling the dice at 7.5 or so for James Franklin would just be a hard opportunity for me to pass up in favor of paying someone like Sumrall the same amount.
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