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re: that was a season. | 27-7 (13-5)

Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:11 pm to
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:11 pm to
Still should have been in the title game and we kick TT’s arse even without Chuma. IMO
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:14 pm to
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That team was one dimensional by the time March came around. Jabari was a deer in the headlights in the tournaments.

Missed you in the game thread Stidham

I wouldn’t say Jabari was deer in the headlights. I’d say that teams learned to just play him tight and do whatever you can from allowing him to post up and shoot jump shots.

Once teams learned that you could shut the offense down by attacking WG on every screen and make him beat you, it was game over for them. That offense was insane before teams started blitzing the screen. That PnR game with a sniper on the wing was a thing of beauty…. Until it wasn’t lol
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
51869 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:16 pm to
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Why do we keep saying our guards have to score more?
Because they do have to score more. that is literally the point of basketball. To score more points than the other team.
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Did Wen protect the ball like Aden and Tre have?

Did you catch the Tennessee game? Holy cow man. We average like 11 turnovers a game.

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So I’ll make a prediction for UT. They have great guards they also won’t win the national championship. Ziegler will get exposed by bigger more physical guards in the tournament. Someone will have a defender that slow down Dalton and they will be it.

You telling me there is an alpha guard isnt a great pitch for telling me we dont need guards. You are flat out missing out the point that guards can break defenses down which help players like Kinechts keep an honest defense, and not the double teams. The NCAA opponents can only hope to contain the Jabaris and the Kinechts. It is the guards-the Jvons, the jahvon quinerlys that can make huge impacts in big tournament games. We have seen this. Stop being stupid.Take a lap.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 10:20 pm
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:17 pm to
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Gun to my head I don't think this team has the chops to make the final 4 or more, and yes, partially because our PG's are a year away, but I do think we are extremely well positioned to get to a S16.

This is the stance we should all take. It’s gonna take some very good performances from multiple players to get us to the E8 or F4. Go back and watch the 19 tourney games to remind yourself how hot the team had to be to get to the F4. Even playing as well as they did, they still needed OT in the E8 to get there.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:18 pm to
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we kick TT’s arse
I can kick my own arse, thanks.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
51869 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:25 pm to
For the "we have plenty of shooters" people:


If Broome get extra special treatment in March Madness who will be the players that step up?

Williams is Johnni's Robin. CBM and KD are erratic but hustlers but yeah, erratic. Are we relying on Denver Jones and his 2-3 from three?
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 10:26 pm
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21235 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:27 pm to
Up to 5 in KenPom and the top team in the conference that metric ranking system.

UTk 6
Bama 8
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
10019 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:28 pm to
Not to mention they straight up should have lost to Chris Jans NMSU team in round 1

Some dude thankfully choked at the foul line big time
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:28 pm to
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frick Terry Oglesby what a count




IIRC he is the one that missed the double dribble against UVA that cost us that Final 4 game?

Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:30 pm to
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Did you catch the Tennessee game? Holy cow man. We average like 11 turnovers a game.

10.6 to be exact which is by far the least of any of Bruce’s AU teams. Also average 17.7 assists a game which leads the conference.

For added context on the PGs, here are their assist:turnover ratios.
Tre - 3.2:1.5
Aden - 2.8:0.9
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 10:31 pm
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
10019 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:32 pm to
Williams, then CBM, then Denver. KD has it in him a little bit but thankfully he is way down the list
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21235 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:32 pm to
It’s March we have the 13th ranked offense. We will probably be somewhere around 10th in offense by the time the SEC tournament rolls around.

We have the cards we have been dealt. We are who we are.

In the tournament you have to hit clutch shots which we haven’t all year and has nothing to do with guard play just been the story for the entire team all season. If we hit clutch shots and play relentless effort on defense we can beat anyone. If we don’t we won’t.

I just for this season to take the experience on this team and hope for the best. Either way I’m gonna enjoy the rest of the season.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
24010 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:36 pm to
Tre and KD stepped up against Iowa last year. I mean no one is arguing that the PGs aren’t weaknesses, but there are guys that have the ability to knock down some shots if given the opportunity. If Broome and Jalyn shite the bed, the guards won’t bail us out anyway. The team isn’t constructed like that.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
51869 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:37 pm to
1 turnover per 3 assists to go along with their 7 points per game isnt enough.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:42 pm to
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If Broome get extra special treatment in March Madness who will be the players that step up?

You would assume Jaylin (12.9/gm), then CBM (10.3/gm), and I guess Denver (8.0/gm) but if our top three scorers are giving us nothing then we are likely screwed. Denver was a volume scorer at FIU but we certainly haven’t seen it consistently. He will have a few possessions where he shows flashes of it then he goes back to being a background extra.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21235 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:42 pm to
Are we talking guard or point guards? Because we have moved CBM to point forward the past 2 weeks. Less attempts from the PGs. Denver is 7-19 from 3 the last 3 games. KD is KD.

I would like to see Denver finish at the rim at a higher rate cause he’s getting to the rake a lot lately
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
51869 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:44 pm to
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Tre and KD stepped up against Iowa last year. I mean no one is arguing that the PGs aren’t weaknesses, but there are guys that have the ability to knock down some shots if given the opportunity. If Broome and Jalyn shite the bed, the guards won’t bail us out anyway. The team isn’t constructed like that.

Jvon Mccormick saved us against New Mexico State. Someone has to come up clutch. Broome will get taken out of the game in March Madness. So someone else will have to be a man and step up. Tre did nice against Iowa last year. I hoped to see more of that three ball.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21235 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:44 pm to
Ok so if no one on our team scores we lose. Makes sense and I agree.

If anyone in the tournament has 2,3,4 guys play poorly they are going to lose. It’s just the way the tournament is
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
24010 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:48 pm to
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Jvon Mccormick saved us against New Mexico State. Someone has to come up clutch.


That’s exactly the point though. No one thought McCormick was that guy at that time or Tre against Iowa. We just have to hope someone that may not be doing a ton right now can step up if needed.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:49 pm to
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1 turnover per 3 assists to go along with their 7 points per game isnt enough.

jang I don’t anyone is arguing that we want more from the PG spot. I think most of us are saying they are what they are at this point which has been serviceable but they’re not gamechangers.

We need them to continue to take care of the ball like they have and don’t put us in a bind by screwing up the offense trying to take over a game unless they get hot or just have to.
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