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Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:05 pm to Rig
Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:05 pm to Rig
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OK State's coach also likely cooperated with their internal investigation meanwhile our coach won't let an internal investigation be had
This is absolute garbage Rig and you know it. Okie St has a 1st year HC and the assistant arrested wasn't coaching underneath him at the time.
Leath has decided to clean house in basketball, Auburn's investigation is a wtich hunt not an investigation. Auburn/Leath are positioning Bruce to be the sacrificial lamb.
Maybe Bruce needs to go, but this whole investigation nonsense is complete BS. Bruce is well within his rights to delay cooperation according to NCAA + Legal
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:14 pm to GenesChin
Just playing the devil's advocate here, why doesn't Bruce just do the internal interview so Wiley and possibly Purifoy can be cleared?
Seems like that is the delay in their case.
Seems like that is the delay in their case.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:15 pm to GenesChin
I have no knowledge base from which to know if Hooks is correct
But Leath has to know that canning arguably the best basketball coach Auburn has ever hired in his first several months on the job is risky. He seems to be wanting to put his mark on AU early and often, but hopefully, if this happens, there is a lot more out there we don't know about.
But again, I just keep coming back to the practical consideration that it really doesn't make much sense how CBP could be involved in this in a way that makes the school all that nervous. Negligent? Sure. But isn't that the case in the multitude of situations across the country impacted by this scandal?
But Leath has to know that canning arguably the best basketball coach Auburn has ever hired in his first several months on the job is risky. He seems to be wanting to put his mark on AU early and often, but hopefully, if this happens, there is a lot more out there we don't know about.
But again, I just keep coming back to the practical consideration that it really doesn't make much sense how CBP could be involved in this in a way that makes the school all that nervous. Negligent? Sure. But isn't that the case in the multitude of situations across the country impacted by this scandal?
Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:31 pm to Rig
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OK State's coach also likely cooperated with their internal investigation meanwhile our coach won't let an internal investigation be had
Btw Rig, this is the type of BS you should recognize as BS
Technically speaking, Bruce is claiming Garrity Warning rights which would suggest that "Silence/Plead 5th" is an acceptable answer and is cooperating with the investigation. Auburn is allowed to view that as having "evidentiary value" but they don't have any other dirt on him
That's how you know this investigation is a complete F'ing sham. Auburn is leaking "Bruce not cooperating" because he isn't giving them the answers they want. That's a witch hunt if I've ever seen one
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:33 pm to Pettifogger
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But Leath has to know that canning arguably the best basketball coach Auburn has ever hired in his first several months on the job is risky.
Which is why Bruce has not yet been fired despite Leath leaking "Not cooperating" (he doens't have to) and clearly trying to set up Bruce to be fired
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He seems to be wanting to put his mark on AU early and often
He is trying to clean house, because he is sick of the AD being involved in so many scandals. You better believe this situation would be different without so many scandals going on
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I just keep coming back to the practical consideration that it really doesn't make much sense how CBP could be involved in this in a way that makes the school all that nervous
You're scope is too narrow, not realizing that there is additional dirt that might be dug up.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:43 pm to GenesChin
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Leath has decided to clean house in basketball
Steve Prohm comin' back to the state of Alabama!
Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:44 pm to AUcs13
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Just playing the devil's advocate here, why doesn't Bruce just do the internal interview so Wiley and possibly Purifoy can be cleared?
Seems like that is the delay in their case.
Because at his own attorney's advice, he is going to stay quiet while the FBI continues to decide who to indict
Anything he gives to AU will be turned over to FBI. I believe he has said he will cooperate once the FBI is done.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:47 pm to HailToTheChiz
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Because at his own attorney's advice, he is going to stay quiet while the FBI continues to decide who to indict
Anything he gives to AU will be turned over to FBI. I believe he has said he will cooperate once the FBI is done.
If he's willing to speak but only later, then that makes zero sense. He's either gonna talk now or never talk at all.
If he says something later that the FBI finds incriminating, do you really think the FBI is gonna say "Gosh! We've already closed that investigation! I guess ol' Bruce got away with it!"
Posted on 11/20/17 at 5:04 pm to beatbammer
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If he's willing to speak but only later, then that makes zero sense. He's either gonna talk now or never talk at all.
If Bruce thinks his job is safe + FBI investigation is over, I could see him cooperating. It could help #freeDanjel + Wiley
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If he says something later that the FBI finds incriminating, do you really think the FBI is gonna say "Gosh! We've already closed that investigation! I guess ol' Bruce got away with it!"
Actually, yes I do believe it.
First, the FBI has to subpoena that information. So if the investigation is over, no subpoena is submitted by FBI to learn about the "juicy" details to reopen the case
Second, the FBI is targeting shoe companies. This has gone on with FIFA corruption that the US uncovered. It doesn't seem like the coaches are the primary suspects, otherwise, they'd be calling players in to testify etc
There is no way they spent all that money on an multi year investigation just to bust a few college coaches giving $15,000-$50,000 to players.
So there is no way they are reopening this just to hit one specific coach after he does an internal review
Posted on 11/20/17 at 5:13 pm to beatbammer
No good lawyer would advise a client even if innocent to talk during an ongoing federal investigation.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 5:33 pm to beatbammer
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If he's willing to speak but only later, then that makes zero sense. He's either gonna talk now or never talk at all.
If he says something later that the FBI finds incriminating, do you really think the FBI is gonna say "Gosh! We've already closed that investigation! I guess ol' Bruce got away with it!"
Could be waiting for certain players to leave - or - even be waiting for statute of limitations to run
Posted on 11/20/17 at 5:34 pm to krandor
Once FBI closes up and threat reasonably passes, I could see Bruce cooperating to get players eligible For a real investigation
Auburn isn't trying to conduct a real investigating
Auburn isn't trying to conduct a real investigating
Posted on 11/20/17 at 5:35 pm to GenesChin
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Auburn isn't trying to conduct a real investigating
right, they are trying to get pearl gone
Posted on 11/20/17 at 5:40 pm to HailToTheChiz
I love how everything about our situation is flaunted in the media while these other schools quietly handle their situations. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that something isn’t quite right with this “investigation”.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:15 pm to Smoke7024
Just so people understand how shady Auburn is acting over this bullshite
Bruce is claiming Garrity Warning/Rights which basically allows him to remain silent regarding this situation. Government entities like AU can't force someone to testify against themselves and can't coerce someone
So why do we keep hearing about AU threatening to fire Bruce? Same reason we always hire Lightfoot Franklin & White
Auburn is trying to bypass everything and claim the investigation is not Auburn but 3rd party independent law firm so Bruce doesn't have those rights. The argument being that FBI wouldn't get information/testimony from AU directly
It's complete BS and ridiculous way to try and bypass rules
Bruce is claiming Garrity Warning/Rights which basically allows him to remain silent regarding this situation. Government entities like AU can't force someone to testify against themselves and can't coerce someone
So why do we keep hearing about AU threatening to fire Bruce? Same reason we always hire Lightfoot Franklin & White
Auburn is trying to bypass everything and claim the investigation is not Auburn but 3rd party independent law firm so Bruce doesn't have those rights. The argument being that FBI wouldn't get information/testimony from AU directly
It's complete BS and ridiculous way to try and bypass rules
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:57 pm to GenesChin
Marcello won't elaborate but says he heard some things have been uncovered regarding "coaches". He didn't say who but when asked if the things uncovered involved players or coaches he said "coaches". He also said this "I'm told things have been uncovered. I'm not sure if that affects Pearl or not, or if it only affects others on his staff (or no one at all in the long run).
Either way he said Pearl is in hot water but it could get better if communication got better
Either way he said Pearl is in hot water but it could get better if communication got better
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:11 pm to AUtigR24
So Hooks is saying that Pearl and staff wanted to do mini investigation interview now, full cooperation after FBI investigation. Supposedly AU completely rejected it
Hooks seems adamant that Leath/AD on his side are purposefully leaking stuff to make it appear Pearl/Assistants are guilty.
Horace Spencer was interviewed and said Auburn Admin has no answered any questions for players / player concerns either
Hooks seems adamant that Leath/AD on his side are purposefully leaking stuff to make it appear Pearl/Assistants are guilty.
Horace Spencer was interviewed and said Auburn Admin has no answered any questions for players / player concerns either
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:21 pm to GenesChin
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This all boils down to the staff being unable to do a full interview with lightfoot due to the ongoing FBI case and their attorneys stern advice. Staff then said we are willing to interview as soon as FBI are done but admin said no. Staff then said we are willing to do a mini interview on matters not relating to FBI. Admin said yes and then said no.
Staff worked to get word form NCAA that they where not requiring (interview). NCAA said we are not. Admin said we don't care.
Three lines in the sand have been thrown down by admin. Two have passed with no firing. Third is tomorrow and seems dire. Last ditch efforts are underway but they are a long shot.
CBP and staff currently as I know it are not accused of any wrong doing but that seems to not matter at this point. How this was not easily handled weeks ago is shocking but what is more shocking is how admin used leaks about the process and the staff to further humiliate CBP in the attempt to put further pressure to buckle against his legal advice and interview. Lastly the kids are being 100% screwed and the admin has not even had the decency to speak with them since the first day Chuck was arrested. So much for caring about our student athletes here at AU...... What is awesome is how hard they are playing regardless of the lack of felt support form the University they wear on their chests.....
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:26 pm to GenesChin
Unbelievable.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:29 pm to GenesChin
I wouldn’t believe it, but it’s Auburn, so not surprised at all.
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