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Should Bowl games matter?

Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:11 pm
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21100 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:11 pm
I posted in another thread that I don’t care about the outcomes of bowl games now. Outside of the playoff the players don’t take them seriously unless it’s some upstart wanting to finish a “good” season against one of the big boys.

I also said I don’t think it should be held against the coach as well. With the portal and players opting out how can the coach be responsible for players doing what they think is in their best interest?

I enjoy watching bowl games because you see matchups that you don’t get every year. But if you have 2 people enter transfer portal, 3 opt out for the NFL draft, and 2 others get surgery to be ready for the next season you aren’t fielding the same team. Use it as practice an extra spring and go play and have fun.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22962 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 5:09 am to
Winning a high level bowl game gets boosters and alum to open their wallets. Gives seniors an additional chance to shine before the draft. Puts a check in the win column for the team and coach. Any of these things would have been good for our team last season.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20488 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 5:10 am to
Why keep score?

Of course it counts!

It’s competition.

Should you not try your best at whatever you do?
I’ll never play a round of golf that means anything to the world, but I will try my best each time I tee the ball up.

In football, I hope the players and coaches are putting everything into trying to win no matter what the circumstances.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69927 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 5:38 am to
The one thing I have learned from this board is, they only matter if you lose them


Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50750 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 6:09 am to
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With the portal and players opting out how can the coach be responsible for players doing what they think is in their best interest?

With the CFP expanding it is playoffs or bust. Getting another W should matter though and it’s a buzzsaw matchup every time we are playing a better team at a lesser school that is happy to be there.

As for whether it should matter to coaches: it should. It mattered with Gus and it matters with Harsin. Harsin has had some success in bowl games and if we start walking back those achievements then I’m curious to know which wins on Harsin’s love me board actually matters.

Oh, and good morning, King.
This post was edited on 9/16/22 at 6:18 am
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19590 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 10:45 am to
I'm hoping that the bowls make some sort of effort to keep players from opting out. Maybe use NIL as a financial incentive - i.e. essentially paying players to participate.

That said, they are a bonus exhibition game that really shouldn't matter outside of the CFP. Which in itself is sad, because they used to mean a lot more before money essentially destroyed the sport.

/oldmanrant
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23768 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 12:29 pm to
They should matter. But they don't now to the players for some of the reasons you mentioned: NIL, portal, things like the Senior Bowl and Pro Days at every school get the last year guys in front of scouts one more time instead of possibly being injured in a bowl game.

I think bowl games are way more important to fans and the Athletic departments now. Outside the playoffs, there's nothing on the line for players for reasons mentioned above.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21100 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 3:20 pm to
I was just wondering because it’s hard to judge a coach for what is essentially an exhibition game now and your talented players choosing not to play.

I’m as competitive as anyone but I realize That things have changed and players are about themselves especially when it comes to potential bottom dollar and I can’t say I blame them. Even in the NFL you normally get about 3-4 years unless you are a superstar
Posted by auburn22
winter spring fl 32708
Member since Jun 2013
626 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 3:25 pm to
Any game matters practice game, bowl game, You play the dam game to win if not don't even play
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19590 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

You play the dam game to win if not don't even play
worked for TAMU
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21100 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 3:37 pm to
That is what I’m saying the players are choosing not to play. Is that a culture problem for a head coach or a generational problem with today’s players?
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
13348 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

the players are choosing not to play.
The one's that need practice aren't. (not playing)

I'm equating bowl games with extra practice (at least it use to) and the rich getting richer. While the poor's get left behind even more.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21100 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 4:15 pm to
Yes I agree as a staff they should go balls to the walls in practice almost like an extra spring.

But what will be a high profile bowl game outside of the playoffs when it’s expanded to 12 teams.
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