re: Reason why JS is struggling in New England

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You cant say that baw. All you can talk about is that he didnt recruit offensive linemen. Tow the line or you will be shunned like Coach.

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But I want to talk about my conspiracy theory that Gus stole Chizik's teeth because his rotted out from all the gum that he chews.

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Hopefully time will heal this pain and we can get started on Harsin’s flaws

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I have no ill feelings towards Gus and think he deserves our respect overall. Not his fault he got a big contract. However, to suggest we cannot discuss some deficiencies that exist even after his departure is silly. To just label it as bitching, whining, or whatever cute word they want to use to describe it is lazy.

I don't bash Gus, but I will discuss his tenure good and bad.

How's the Springs LCT? I miss that place a lot.

Ridiculous. Saw the same issue when I lived there and knew it would only get worse.

The problem is the county and city rarely hold developers and new homebuyers responsible for the infrastructure minus the stuff they do for their development. It's really simple to require other infrastructure improvements plus impact fee's on developers and new homebuyers. At least they hadn't anyway.

I hate fee's and taxes, but I think it is responsible to do impact fee's so the infrastructure can be improved, expanded, and updated. The increase of population does not just affect let's say Falcon, but the entire county.

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Hopefully time will heal this pain and we can get started on Harsin’s flaws

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Thats not gonna happen. He will be like Bruce Pearl and be totally untouchable.


I cant wait for the season to start and things are no better. OR maybe worse. It will certainly not be Harsins fault

If you cant see the insanity of what has gone on here the past few months, then you have just been programmed because of it.

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then you have just been programmed

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“If you don’t agree with me you’ve been PROGRAMMED”

I love this place. Never change

Have you ever thought for a second that the reason Stidham sucks in the NFL has more to do with him than his training? Same for most QB’s.

Somehow Cam Newton left Malzahns system and broke Peyton Manning’s rookie NFL passing record. How is that even possible? The best passing rookie in nfl history came from a guy that can’t teach QB? Maybe they really can teach quarterback in Blinn Texas. I don’t know?

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I don’t think Gus broke JS. I also don’t think he helped him much either. This might break your brain but both can exist and be true.

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So Stidham is Schrodinger's QB?

I think we agree here.

The article is also true too. Did Auburn and Baylor’s offense prepare Stidham for the NFL? Hell no it didn’t

Is that meaningful for great QBs? Absolutely not. Great QBs learn, adapt, and grow. The bad ones don’t. It’s not Gus’s fault that Stidham sucks in the same way that it’s not Gus’s triumph that Cam reached the super bowl and won a MVP.

Anyway. This has been a long back and forth to establish that we agree. I’m sorry if I missed something earlier than threw me off track but the hoops people (not yours) go through to support their shitty opinions on this board can be hard to follow

But now you're completely stretching what Palmer said in the article. He never said that Gus or Briles "ruined" Stidham. He said that because of those systems which he spent his entire collegiate career in, he was extremely BEHIND in terms of the "non-physical" part of playing the QB position. The problem with this is that if you already come into the NFL from a lagging position, its extremely hard to not only make up that difference, but then also grow in the same way that all QB's MUST grow in the NFL to succeed. The article wasn't about saying "Stidham struggles because of Gus", all it said was that he thinks he struggled because he came in with a disadvantage due to the College coaching he received. That should be obvious and isn't even a point of challenge as you can see an "anti-Auburn" stigma by NFL personnel at virtually EVERY offensive position! NFL teams DO look at what system a player came out of because some are better than others at teaching/implementing NFL-ready skills. Malzahn's offense is quite obviously on the extreme low-end of that scale, as Palmer correctly pointed out.

But let me guess, NFL personnel are probably just "jealous" of Malzahn's vast success and his offensive genius? You mean the offensive genius that seems to show up completely at random with no foresight...as if Malzahn himself just kinda finds a pot of gold once every couple seasons? Did someone here seriously just suggest that his plays were being "copied"/"stolen" LMAO? Apart from the Wildcat which was a complete gimmick, everything else in his offense is just bits and pieces taken from other systems. That's fine and isn't anything to scoff at because it's not like there's still "undiscovered" things to invent offensively, but don't come here and suggest that Malzahn was some revolutionary who rewrote offensive football LMAO. His one "principal philosophy" (going fast) is now done better by 50%+ of the schools in the country. And those schools are all also playing with the new substitution rule changes. His offense is actually fairly slow and has been for years - it only works in going fast when he has an overpowered run game that he can spam without much thought.