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re: Portal Extravaganza - uat, thUGA and Howard (prayers answered) edition

Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:17 pm to
The NFL hashmarks is the only reason why it cannot be done in the NFL.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39823 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:20 pm to
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The NFL hashmarks is the only reason why it cannot be done in the NFL.


I think that is a bit of an overblown argument, but we may get to find out at some point. Whatever distance you lose on the wide side of the formation, you gain on the near side. Formations may have to change, but the general principal of the offense wouldn't have to. You are using space trying to get LB's to declare intentions pre-snap.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 12:24 pm
Posted by The_SwAUggford
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:24 pm to
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Steele was very good here at designing planned substitution packages to keep guys fresh when we played high tempo teams.



Its not a matter of keeping guys fresh against this offense.

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Not really but I also think calling "tempo" a gimmick is silly.


And thats why I called it a matter of personal opinion. We're not gonna agree here but I understand your argument.
Posted by Beachbum87
Niceville, FL
Member since Oct 2022
4267 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:25 pm to
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but we may get to find out at some point.


AG to the NFL after our back to back Natties?

Posted by pdfield34
Member since Aug 2022
602 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:27 pm to
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Having Golesh will be detrimental to signing top QBs and WRs. NFL is scared of evaluating them.


I'm really optimistic that he'll do basic UT and USF to get the ball rolling (the first year) and then he'll make changes / adjust as needed. They weren't doing UT and USF when they were at Iowa St.

To have success, it seems you basically have to run the UT offense when you're at USF.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50843 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:27 pm to
I posted a video when Golesh was hired.

The field side is so large in college that it essentially forces slot corners have to declare whether they will play the run or the pass which creates an advantage. In the NFL there is no advantage.

Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39823 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:30 pm to
Yes, and as I said, I think it is an overblown argument for the reason I stated. You gain that distance on the near side of the field. Formations may have to change to adjust a hashmark being narrower, but you haven't just all of a sudden started playing on a smaller field.
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
5314 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:32 pm to
Not gonna lie.. as much as I heard about how hard we would hit the portal (and we still might) I expected at least some of the USF guys to be in already. The others who need to take visits I get, but shouldn't some of the locks be getting locked up?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45029 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:36 pm to
The 2nd is just when they can enter the portal. It could be months before some decide. I know we all on here love football, but to players and coaches, it is just a job. Most took Christmas and NY off. Expect to see visits first.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50843 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:37 pm to
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And thats why I called it a matter of personal opinion.

The only opinion that matters is mine. Regardless of how the plays are drawn up or executed- traditional or not, as long as the play is legal and an advantage for the team and you cant find negative outcome then do it.

But if your players get knocked for it then it becomes detrimental. After going through the Gus years we all know how knocks can stack up. We couldnt recruit OL and we couldn't recruit elite WRs to perform to the fullest of their abilities.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4472 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:38 pm to
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Not gonna lie.. as much as I heard about how hard we would hit the portal (and we still might) I expected at least some of the USF guys to be in already. The others who need to take visits I get, but shouldn't some of the locks be getting locked up?



From the Top 500 ranked players on On3 who have entered/announced will enter...a grant total of 4 have publicly committed so far.

Nobody has committed anywhere, not just here.

Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50843 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:39 pm to
Gaining little extra yards on the boundary side isnt going to mean a hill of beans to NFL offenses.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39823 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:41 pm to
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Gaining little extra yards on the boundary side isnt going to mean a hill of beans to NFL offenses.


Then losing it on the wide side wouldn't either.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39823 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:42 pm to
We've gotten some CB's for Brown already, so there's that
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50843 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:42 pm to
That's the field side. Yes it would. The whole offense is predicated on space.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39823 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:44 pm to


it is the same amount of space.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 12:46 pm
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4472 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:47 pm to
CB Dwight Bootle II from Charlotte (formerly Nebraska) has been offered.

South Florida kid, so probably someone that DVD/the recruiting staff knows from HS.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50843 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:50 pm to
Gaining a few extra yards on boundary side isnt going to be enough to stress the D.

Losing extra yards on the field side prevents taking advantage of space.

The offense has been around since 2011 or so. If it would work in the NFL the offenses would already be using it effectively.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
13946 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:51 pm to
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If it would work in the NFL the offenses would already be using it effectively.


Due to hash mark differences.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39823 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:54 pm to
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Gaining a few extra yards on boundary side isnt going to be enough to stress the D.

Losing extra yards on the field side prevents taking advantage of space.


Again, as i've said, it would require formation updates to account for the changing available space. You won't be able to take advanatge of as much space on the wide side but would be able to take advantage of more on the near side. If the distance is enough to impact one side of the field, it is enough to impact the other side of the field, if you adjust to account for it.

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The offense has been around since 2011 or so. If it would work in the NFL the offenses would already be using it effectively.

The NFL is also incredibly lazy . They all essentially use the same playbook offensively and just adjust ratios to their strengths. However, they have started adopting some of this. Splits have been getting wider for a lot of teams. I think the athletic ability of linebackers in the NFL is a far more limiting factor to the success of this offense than the hashmarks would be.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 1:01 pm
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