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re: Portal Extravaganza - uat, thUGA and Howard (prayers answered) edition

Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:45 am to
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:45 am to
Posted by The_SwAUggford
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:46 am to
Its def gimmicky. Abuses the hashes being wider than nfl hashes and feasts on tempo exploits. Some rule changes could wreck it and force heavy adaptations and maybe even a complete philosophy change. But we're still living in a world where the offense exists and works very well so I choose to be excited until I have reason not to be.
Posted by metafour
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:48 am to
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I don't see how the Golesh system is gimmicky? What's the gimmick, using the entire playing field?



They run wide splits and its a more limited route tree. So there are some reservations that NFL teams don't like. Its a bigger learning curve for the receivers jumping to the NFL.

But again, who gives a shite? If AU is producing 3,000+ yard 30 TD QB's and 1,000+ yard receivers who "ONLY" get drafted in the 2nd/3rd round, who the f*ck is going to complain?
Posted by The_SwAUggford
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:49 am to
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If AU is producing 3,000+ yard 30 TD QB's and 1,000+ yard receivers who "ONLY" get drafted in the 2nd/3rd round, who the f*ck is going to complain?


You know the answer to this

Hint: rhymes with poontang
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:50 am to
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Some rule changes could wreck it


Like what? They already made rule changes to deal with tempo. This offense is far less gimmicky than a lot of your other HUNH offenses, it just relies on spacing more, to get the defense to dictate their hand, then let's receivers run option routes.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:50 am to
If you dont give a shite then I wont bother but before Golesh was hired I posted I was leary of cautionary tales when it comes to recruiting
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:52 am to
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Hint: rhymes with poontang

Posted by The_SwAUggford
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:57 am to
Ig it comes down to a personal opinion thing, and to me snapping the ball before the defense has time to get in position or communicate assignments is a little cheap but theres a huge portion of people that will tell you thats a part of the game and I respect that.

Now I dont expect them to change the rules and I def dont expect them to center the hashes more, I'm just explaining why it can be considered gimmicky.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:00 pm to
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Ig it comes down to a personal opinion thing, and to me snapping the ball before the defense has time to get in position or communicate assignments is a little cheap but theres a huge portion of people that will tell you thats a part of the game and I respect that.


I mean, by this logic, you can make the exact same argument with making a formation shift and not allowing the defense time to audible, but that isn't seen as gimmicky.

Posted by attalla
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:01 pm to
Gocrazy, amen! Glad to get rid of that and they put up points for sure. Maybe hashes (?) , Rules change as do defenses to catch up to the O’s. Hopefully we have a coach that is also adaptable, whereas our others were too stubborn
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 12:05 pm
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:02 pm to
Gus only had 2 routes, so Drago only has 1?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39823 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:04 pm to
Yea, they'd have to completely change the hashmark rules for college football to match the NFL. The thing about that though, is while it decreases the amount of distance to the wide side of the filed that you can split out, it increases the distance on the near side. While it would require some changes to how the formations are called and done, it isn't like it would have to just overhaul the scheme.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:05 pm to
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Gus only had 2 routes, so Drago only has 1?


Drago actually has 2 routes on almost every play, potentially even 3!
Posted by Johnnycrane
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:07 pm to
Let's cut the Jaylin Hyatt fantasy. Jaylin was 6'0 176 pounds coming out of college. He's barley 185 now. My point being he struggled MIGHTILY against physical corners in the NFL. He also has issues with the giants coaching staff leading them to bench him even when healthy. Yes he ran a 4.4, but his lack of strength and attitude doomed him more than Tennessee. At some point it has to be the player
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:07 pm to
IDK what is going on in this thread. On the subject of portal, I find it interesting of the final four teams, Oregon has the least amount of portal transfers at 44%. For a baseline, UGA had 10%. Data is trending experience over HS talent.
Posted by The_SwAUggford
Member since Jan 2013
4088 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:10 pm to
Ehhhh not really the same thing. I expect good dcs to solve formation shifts in prep and gameplanning. Tempo is near impossible to "solve". Its why it's so effective.
Posted by The_SwAUggford
Member since Jan 2013
4088 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:11 pm to
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Data is trending experience over HS talent.


And thats one of the reasons I called the Cignetti method the new meta.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50843 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:11 pm to
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Gus only had 2 routes, so Drago only has 1?

That math maths on my mathing machine as well.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39823 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:15 pm to
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Ehhhh not really the same thing. I expect good dcs to solve formation shifts in prep and gameplanning.


It is exactly the same thing, trying to get the defense out of position and unable to adjust before you can snap the ball. I expect good DC's to solve tempo in prep and gameplanning. We've done it many times. Steele was very good here at designing planned substitution packages to keep guys fresh when we played high tempo teams.

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Tempo is near impossible to "solve".


Not really but I also think calling "tempo" a gimmick is silly. Everything offensively is a gimmick if we are going to go with such a broad definition. Everything you do offensively is designed to take advantage of a defense being out of position or at a numbers disadvantage.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39823 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 12:17 pm to
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Data is trending experience over HS talent.


It has always been this way, we are just in a world now where the liklihood that someone is going to stay at your program and develop for 2-3 years is very small, so you are required to go the portal route more heavily for the experienced talent.
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