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Our biggest issue now is
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:53 am
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:53 am
Next year will just be more of the same. There really is nothing our there to make us believe anything different. QB situation is still shite. Coaches are still shite. We will be lucky if we are able to keep some of the WR talent we have until next season. If I were Kyle Davis or NCM, Id be looking around. No future here for them from what we see.
Id like to think Woody could be good for us but there are no signs that he will be. I just cant believe that he has tons of talent and was unable to get playing time this year. Why would any coach have the QB shite show we had and have a guy who could make a different riding the pine?
Same Running backs, same receivers , same play calling, same QB's. From what I can see, we dont even have a real QB recruited for next class do we?
It is always nice to have something out there to make you feel like things could get better. But unless I am blind, I dont see it. Another year with SW at QB? We are so much better than that...
Id like to think Woody could be good for us but there are no signs that he will be. I just cant believe that he has tons of talent and was unable to get playing time this year. Why would any coach have the QB shite show we had and have a guy who could make a different riding the pine?
Same Running backs, same receivers , same play calling, same QB's. From what I can see, we dont even have a real QB recruited for next class do we?
It is always nice to have something out there to make you feel like things could get better. But unless I am blind, I dont see it. Another year with SW at QB? We are so much better than that...
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:52 am to LanierSpots
Just looking at the schedule we have sure Ls to Bama UGA LSU and Clemson and maybe TAMU if they get Stidham.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:33 am to LurkingEmbraer
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I'm not saying hire Bobby Petrino. I'm saying given the talent and the situation he stepped into, the man has never coached his team out of a win like we have seen twice (clemson/UGA) possibly three times (Ta&m) this season. I'm saying hire someone that has a similar attitude regarding wining and the brain to adapt to changing circumstances.
The thing is there's no one out there that is obvious. There is no "super coach" like Saban that is sitting somewhere waiting to be hired away. Any coach we hire is going to be an unknown commodity. Do we really need to go through that right now?
I say let's just wait out Saban's tenure with Gus. If a super coach comes along in the meantime, jump at him.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:43 am to AUstar
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I say let's just wait out Saban's tenure with Gus. If a super coach comes along in the meantime, jump at him.
Saban could be here 10 more years. He literally has to do nothing but sit back and let the 5*s come to him. When he leaves Dabo steps in and continues to beat our arse.
College football has changed dramatically in the last few years. Saban knew this was coming so he went out and got Lane Kiffin to light up scoreboards.
We stuck with Malzahns stone-age offense and you're seeing the result. Malzan done this to himself by not adapting. His offense will be the death of him at Auburn which is ironic.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:50 am to AUtigR24
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Malzan done this to himself by not adapting.
here is the only place I disagree with you and others on. And it has been my point for over two years now. Malzahn should not be adapting. He needs to play the hand that he plays best. Stop trying to bring in players that do not fit the one system that he knows how to run and adapt to them.
Bring in guys that fit the system he can run and run the shite out of it. Its not a fair comparison but a lot of fishermen do this as well. Some of you will understand that and some of you will just think Im a idiot. Again
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:59 am to AUstar
Everything was good until multiple key players got injured so you can't blame that on the coach. Yes it'd be nice to have a competent backup QB and/or a larger starting QB that is less injury prone I'm confident this is (and always has been) a top priority for Gus.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:02 am to LanierSpots
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the one system that he knows how to run
And which system is that?
He broke out the Wing T against Clemson.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:05 am to warrreagle93
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Everything was good until multiple key players got injured so you can't blame that on the coach
But it really wasn't 93. It was hidden by smoke screens... Our offense has only been good in like 2 games this year. I think we could have beaten UGA with the same shitty offense we had if no injuries but last nights game would not have been a lot different. And I dont want to compare us againt Bama who no one can compare to right now
The entire SEC was a shite show this year and we should have clearly been the 2nd best team but we are just as bad as some of the others
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:05 am to LurkingEmbraer
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Jacobs
Didn't hire Malzahn - used a committee to save his job as AD.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:09 am to PatDyesPants
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And which system is that?
Here are the requirements
Big athletic running QB with decent down field passing skills(Don't have to be great)
One big pounding back
One fast speed back
Good H back who can block
Decent Oline
Profit, you have seen this before...
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:20 am to warrreagle93
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Everything was good until multiple key players got injured so you can't blame that on the coach.
In our 0-6 streak against the mutts and gumps, we've managed to score more than 13 points once. Gus' offensive problems have nothing to do with our injuries this year.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:24 am to LanierSpots
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Next year will just be more of the same. There really is nothing our there to make us believe anything different. QB situation is still shite. Coaches are still shite. We will be lucky if we are able to keep some of the WR talent we have until next season. If I were Kyle Davis or NCM, Id be looking around. No future here for them from what we see.
Id like to think Woody could be good for us but there are no signs that he will be. I just cant believe that he has tons of talent and was unable to get playing time this year. Why would any coach have the QB shite show we had and have a guy who could make a different riding the pine?
Same Running backs, same receivers , same play calling, same QB's. From what I can see, we dont even have a real QB recruited for next class do we?
It is always nice to have something out there to make you feel like things could get better. But unless I am blind, I dont see it. Another year with SW at QB? We are so much better than that...
In all honestly what we really need is the Prince's to become the forces they look like they could be. Two "true" SEC caliber tackles would go a long way to fixing what we saw this season. We couldn't throw it down the field against anyone who had a draftable DL this season because the Pass Pro was so bad. Who knows if we'd been able to run on uga or bama with a healthy KP. I suspect the games would have looked similar to LSU with a win a against uga and loss to bama.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 8:27 am
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:30 am to LanierSpots
Are you sure we have 1 issue? I think there is more than 1 issue.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:31 am to AUstar
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Any coach we hire is going to be an unknown commodity. Do we really need to go through that right now?
From a fans perspective, it appears this way. But an intelligent AD should be able to pick out certain points from a sit down interview with a candidate and get a better idea of what a coaches ceiling is. For instance, after interviewing Gus, there should've been some red flags pulled over his inability to adapt...something we see Saban do on offense and defense.
If we asked Gus if he would be open to drastically changing his offense if our opponents effectively figure out how to limit it, we might've gained a better perspective on what we're dealing with now.
Ability to recruit, develop players, adapt to the game, and run a clean program are priority.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:38 am to LanierSpots
I believe it's all coaching/philosophy and strategy and player development. Which is of course all rolled up into the first: Gus and Rhett.
If Saban had our players I believe he could win with them. Hell I believe he could win with White OR Jeremy. He'd use Franklin effectively too. Aside from Hurts (who is a freak), he has won with only serviceable QBs over the last decade. But he makes them winners in a system that works.
Our recruiting at AU has not been QUITE as good as Bama. But we have had top 5-10 classes every year.
I believe it's all about our "system" or lack thereof.
If Saban had our players I believe he could win with them. Hell I believe he could win with White OR Jeremy. He'd use Franklin effectively too. Aside from Hurts (who is a freak), he has won with only serviceable QBs over the last decade. But he makes them winners in a system that works.
Our recruiting at AU has not been QUITE as good as Bama. But we have had top 5-10 classes every year.
I believe it's all about our "system" or lack thereof.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:41 am to CreoleAubie
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Our recruiting at AU has not been QUITE as good as Bama. But we have had top 5-10 classes every year.
I believe it's all about our "system" or lack thereof.
I do believe we aren't developing talent. However, the whole 5-10 classes thing doesn't hold as much water for me because we always finish 4-5 in the SEC. So if the rankings are so important we should always be 4-5 in the SEC.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:54 am to CreoleAubie
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he has won with only serviceable QBs over the last decade. But he makes them winners in a system that works
a. this is pretty easy to do with number 1 classes including the top players at most spots on the field.
b. they aren't just serviceable quarterbacks. AJ is still in the NFL now, McElroy was drafted and cut and is an analyst now. Blake Sims and JPW were the only serviceable quarterbacks that he has had in his run and Sims was an upperclassmen with great running backs behind him.
c. we are a top 20 team this year and you guys are screaming to fire a coach. we looked bad in a couple games but the same games under Tubbs would have been fine, hell the LSU game this year would have been considered a legendary defensive battle. You're all spoiled now and forget them man who spoiled you and that is Malzahn.
For all the people screaming about getting rid of Malzahn, who would you hire. name someone realistic that would step into the second school in a small state behind the top program in the country under the best coach ever.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:13 am to SmithsAuFan
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Are you sure we have 1 issue? I think there is more than 1 issue.
Totally agree. There are multiple but most of them revolve around our QB development and recruiting right now.... If we had that straight, we would be much better at football
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:28 am to warrreagle93
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Everything was good until multiple key players got injured so you can't blame that on the coach. Yes it'd be nice to have a competent backup QB and/or a larger starting QB that is less injury prone I'm confident this is (and always has been) a top priority for Gus.
What the frick.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:38 am to LanierSpots
RA'd for hanging title.
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