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Posted on 12/29/21 at 10:33 am to Aubie Spr96
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Not kicking the field goal was fricking moronic.
IT was a dang irrelevant bowl game.
Was it for making the playoffs? or for winning a championship? No.
Would rather have a coach go for it, than 'settle' for 3.
It wasn't at the time a critical time, either.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 10:36 am to jangalang
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Harsin really didn’t call a bad game on offense. His worst sequence was:
Tank run for 8 yards on first down.
Incomplete
Incomplete
Incomplete
That fateful drive concluded all offensive series’ this season but there was one drop. I would’ve liked to milk some more Tank though.
What are your thoughts?
In the end, we weren't going to score just running Tank w/ 3 mins left and starting at the 25.
Ofc it's always better to run Tank as an option.
But on those 3 passes, Tank and Hudson were open and an accurate pass gets the first down too.
Finally, We struggle more it seems on short yardage, so there was no guarantee Tank gets the 2 yards.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 10:42 am to jangalang
quote:Bad moon rising.
There isn’t much difference between 7-6 and 6-7. Both are shitty results. Our record wasn’t by accident so now our first year head coach has to get to work.
To be honest, I never heard of Harsin before he was hired. Never heard of the new OC either. Meanwhile, our rivals have household names. All the while, we are one of the biggest revenue producers in the country.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 10:47 am to jangalang
quote:I know. Now name the other football powerhouses that play in that conference. To be honest, I rarely watched a bowl game that Gus was coaching, in the past few years. Meaningless, and usually left with sadness at the end. I stayed home yesterday and watched from beginning to end. Ended with the same damn feeling. Piss poor QB play. No alternative. Some questionable offensive play calling.
Houston plays in the same conference as Cincinnati. SEC has been AUful in bowl games. hth
Thank God, we have the basketball program headed in the right direction!
Posted on 12/29/21 at 10:58 am to greygoose
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To be honest, I never heard of Harsin before he was hired. Never heard of the new OC either. Meanwhile, our rivals have household names. All the while, we are one of the biggest revenue producers in the country.
Sounds like you just don't know much about football then, which would imply that you should just sit back and try not to think too hard about this.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 11:09 am to auburnnyc94
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I can’t believe how easily some of you just completely fall apart watching this stuff. Harsin clearly called a good offensive game yesterday. Agree with the one criticism on that late sequence but if players execute it’s no issue.
You can’t dance around your players lack of ability forever. Gus tried to do that too much and it drove me insane. At some point you’ve got to call the best plays you think will get guys open and give your team a chance to score and Harsin did that time and time again today. These are D1 athletes expected to make plays and they didn’t. Oh well. Recruit better and move on. A couple messy play call sequences shouldn’t affect anybody’s opinion of Harsin and I’m probably lower on him than most. Some of you played Madden and think you have it all figured out.
The early FG was just kinda 50/50. The analytics say to go for it there and most aggressive coaches go for it in that spot. Multiple coaches who would have been dream hires for this board go for it there.
That's the way I saw.
We struggled with points all year, and getting 3 down in the RZ was not going to be enough.
Also, it was 4th and 2. If it was 4th and 7+ I bet Harsin kicks it. And on the 4th down, Jackson was wide open and almost made a great catch. Poor execution was the issue.
And on that late INT by Wooten, the first play from scrimmage was a play action with a wide open WR, that Finley just has to rainbow to him. We hit that and Houston isn't going to come back 10 points on us.
At the end of the game. 2nd and 2. Ofc its 50/50 to give it to Tank and maybe get the 1st down. I give those that didn't like it an ...ummmm ok.
But on the other side of that, Houston was going to think run, and we are not a very good short yardage team.
2nd, Even if we make it by running, we are going to have to pass the ball mostly at some point, bc we need a TD to win and time was under 3 mins.
Lastly, all 3 of those pass plays on 2nd, 3rd ,and 4th downs were short easy throws that Tank, and Hudson were open on.
You have to expect your QB to hit those, if not now, then definitely moving down the field.
Harsin called a really good game, if you look at the plays called. Tank was a a major focal. The TEs were late. He got all the WRs involved.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 11:17 am to AuSteeler
Way to realistic of an opinion on this board.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 11:24 am to metafour
quote:Yep, not knowing the name of obscure coaches, really defines someone's knowledge of the game. I'm guessing all those HS recruits are up to date, on the OC and HC of schools that never make a splash.
Sounds like you just don't know much about football then, which would imply that you should just sit back and try not to think too hard about this.
Imagine you have Saban, Kelly, Kirby or Jimbo with his bag full of NIL contracts coming to your home for a recruiting visit. Then walks in Harsin fresh off his Birmingham Bowl loss, with a gallon of Milo's tea.
We have an AD with no ties to the region and a HC with no ties to the region.
Also, a stadium that needed massive updates 10+ years ago. Until our athletic department and President gets serious about wanting to win, it's wash, rinse, repeat. I hate that with all my heart, but the writing is all over the wall, no matter how optimistic you can be, or how much cherry picking can be done with scouring the games and outcomes for a little beam of sunshine.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 11:35 am to greygoose
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Ga State is some kind of powerhouse too?
I know you’re trying to poke fun, but GA State was 7-5 going into their bowl. So it’s very different.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 11:46 am to kung fu kenny
quote:Well shite, there's some high schools that went undefeated this season too! Are we just looking at records now?
I know you’re trying to poke fun, but GA State was 7-5 going into their bowl. So it’s very different.
The point is, we shouldn't ever lose to an AAC team or even come close to losing to a Ga State team. Our talent level is SUPPOSED to be be head and shoulders above those teams. Hell, our OL and DL averaged what, 30-40lbs over those two schools? We fired our HC after last season. Did we improve, stay the same, or get worse results?
Posted on 12/29/21 at 11:51 am to greygoose
I'm in Greygoose's camp. I can't really find anything optimistic about yesterday's loss. Today I don't have a lot of hope for the future.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 12:50 pm to kung fu kenny
quote:You are happy with mediocrity.
Y’all are hardheaded
I'm willing to give him a chance, but we need to see improvement, fast. I'm not talking natty next year, but improvement over the previous coach. Otherwise, what was the point of firing Gus?
Posted on 12/29/21 at 5:30 pm to greygoose
Colby Wooden is coming back.
Make that another optimistic note.
Make that another optimistic note.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:03 pm to greygoose
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You are happy with mediocrity.
No I am not. The only thing I said in this thread was that Houston was 11-2 and GSU was 7-5. Houston is a good team and we were playing with an inept QB and missing a few key guys. I’m not happy we lost I’m just trying to say the sky isn’t falling.
Yet
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:08 pm to greygoose
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You are happy with mediocrity.
This is by far one of the most retarded arguments made.
It’s just lazy and meant to flame. I would bet you a lot of money there isn’t a fan that posts here that wants mediocrity in Auburn sports programs. There are just some of us that aren’t freaking out and just have an alternative perspective.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 1:21 am to auburnnyc94
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The most concerning thing about Harsin confirmed in yesterday’s game to me is simply the fact that he brought TJ Finley onto the roster. Even if just intended to be a career backup I already have concern about QB Eval
Sark at Texas and Franklin at Penn State both wanted him badly. He also had offers from Bama and Houston. Saban wanted him. Dana Holgorsen knows a thing or two about passing the ball as well.
All of these guys wanted Finley.
I feel confident that you are fair with that assessment and you question their evaluation on QBs as well?
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 1:23 am
Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:20 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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This is by far one of the most retarded arguments made.
It’s just lazy and meant to flame. I would bet you a lot of money there isn’t a fan that posts here that wants mediocrity in Auburn sports programs. There are just some of us that aren’t freaking out and just have an alternative perspective.
You might want to do some self-reflection. Say no one wants mediocrity, then go on to defend mediocrity.
We lost to 2/3 of our rivals. Hired and fired two coaches in the same year. QB play saw no improvement over game one. Ended up 6-7, after playing the freaking Bham Bowl, in front of a home crowd, and losing to an AAC team. Damn, there are posters in this thread defending our loss to Houston and our almost loss to GA State!
There isn't anything to defend about this season and anybody that does, is happy being mediocre, whether they admit it or not. No other way to look at it objectively right now, other than we have a really shitty football program from top to bottom.
Bottom line is, as a huge fan of Auburn, I find this unacceptable. Anyone that doesn't, is ok with beaten down constantly with a sprinkle of an almost win, and beating a rival who fired their HC during the season.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:26 am to auburn2eugene
quote:I don't think your post makes the argument you think it does.
Sark at Texas and Franklin at Penn State both wanted him badly. He also had offers from Bama and Houston. Saban wanted him. Dana Holgorsen knows a thing or two about passing the ball as well.
All of these guys wanted Finley.
I feel confident that you are fair with that assessment and you question their evaluation on QBs as well?
If all those big-time coaches and P5 schools wanted him, and we got him, why does he look so shitty? That's way more concerning than why he's on our roster.
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