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Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:27 pm to
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:27 pm to
I disagree with Freeze on this. He needs to go back in there and buy another QB. A lot of the Thorne criticism during the 4 game losing streak was discounted to a QB rotation, but Thorne was absolutely terrible most of the time. He got better as defenses got less intimidating but from Cal to Ole Miss he was trash.
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21818 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:28 pm to
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Do you think Cam and that 2010 season was worth $1.5 million?
A guarantied Heisman QB is (probably) literally worth his weight in gold.
Posted by Etowah
Alabama
Member since Oct 2016
386 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:40 pm to
I really don't think Thorne is that bad by the way they utilized him down the stretch, I think they could have used his skill set a little differently earlier in the year. I believe his numbers on the year would have been a lot better if our receivers could catch a ball. Don't get me wrong he made his fair share of dumb throws but I see potential in him, especially if Hugh takes over play calling.
Posted by BrounHaller
Mtn Brook
Member since Aug 2023
1842 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:45 pm to
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Kail Ellis just committed. 2026 OLine
What is the rationale behind someone committing thaaat early? Of course we will take all the OL we can get…
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19571 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 1:01 pm to
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What is the rationale behind someone committing thaaat early? Of course we will take all the OL we can get…


The main benefit for AU would be to have their name back out there as having blue chips committed. Might help with others.

But yeah, 2026 is two years away and that's an eternity in recruiting.
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
3118 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 1:01 pm to
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Matt Rhule said a quality QB in the portal right now is going for $1.5 million
A top tier QB is easily ~3 wins for a team with below average QB play. $500k per win feels like a steal.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21897 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 1:08 pm to
Our pass offense was poor. I’m not defending Thorne but his adjusted completion percentage on the season was 71.5%. You can only scheme open slot guys open so much. I think Hugh and company did a good job of that the last 5-6 games of the season with Burton and Var.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21897 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 1:10 pm to
And to add to that with the stud WRs coming in they are going to be true freshman there are going to be plenty of mistakes made.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24107 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 1:13 pm to
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I disagree with Freeze on this. He needs to go back in there and buy another QB

For sure. It's not like the $500k for Thorne or the $1.5MM reported price for a good transfer QB are coming out of his salary. Let the money people decide where the money goes and get the best available based on that.
Posted by smuphy72
Bham
Member since Nov 2009
4320 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 1:27 pm to
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What is the rationale behind someone committing thaaat early? Of course we will take all the OL we can get…


He’s going to be a borderline 5* type player.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21897 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 1:30 pm to
Depends on growth. He’s an interior guy and very few IOL get 5 stars. He’s most likely a center
Posted by smuphy72
Bham
Member since Nov 2009
4320 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 1:33 pm to
Yea. I think he’ll get a similar rating to Deandre Carter. Somewhere between 40 and 125. Unless he blows up to 6’6/6’7.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19623 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 1:33 pm to
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I think most of it depends on NIL cost for an upgrade for a portal QB. We have greater needs long term than a 1 year QB. Not saying that’s a good or bad thing.


This was my point. Id bet this conversation is being had. "Coach we can get Leonard, however that means we dont have the money for Coleman and Ryan Williams; or, vice versa, you tell me".

And I would say bring home the two wide receivers and we ride with Thorne and Geriner, baby goat and Walker. I say again, great receivers can make a pedestrian QB look very good.

Remember these same boosters started the NIL era having already forked out 150 million on facilities and coaches buyouts, they must really love this program to keep pouring the money in, think about that the next time someone derides them.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19623 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 1:38 pm to
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quote:
So, you are implying that Freeze wants him to be starter or are you implying that he does not want Thorne or Geriner to jump into the portal. Or are you implying something else.
It's this.


Thorne already said he is staying. Remember fellas, he is getting paid now. He has to judge if he thinks he leaves could he get more somewhere else. If he stays and some hot shot does come in....he still gets paid.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52670 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 1:39 pm to
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"Coach we can get Leonard, however that means we dont have the money for Coleman and Ryan Williams; or, vice versa, you tell me".


"Let someone else donate."

---Thorne hater and Masterbaiter
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 1:51 pm to
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Caldwell is saying Freeze is happy with having Thorne and Geriner going into spring and doesn't expect us to get into a bidding war over a qb.


IE we missed out on the portal guy we were interested in. Sucks. frick ND.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19571 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:02 pm to
I just came across this. Miami flipped a 5 star from OSU. But I died laughing at his flip graphic.



They literally have bundles of cash in the graphic.
Posted by Ccslimm
DC
Member since Nov 2016
745 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:12 pm to
That’s literally one of the reasons for they have that class. But they haven’t learned those kids will portal out after their freshman season
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20858 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:13 pm to
Why is he doing duck lips?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108722 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:15 pm to
Damn it Leonard
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