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re: Old Recruiting Thread: RIP insiders

Posted on 11/15/23 at 10:24 pm to
Posted by atwitsendAU
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Posted on 11/15/23 at 10:24 pm to
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Don’t get me wrong, I’m excited. But I have too much Auburn in me not to have a feeling deep down in the gut gearing me up for a huge let down.


25, I hear you bro, but I believe we are much further past that history than any of us can imagine or know. Keep the faith. We will have awesome signing days because our coaches and staff, from Trovon to CHF are recruiting lights out. We have almost nothing comparable to. Not to Gus, anyone except maybe Coach Pat Dye bringing Bo and others in in the early 80's. Nothing else comes close to what our staff is doing. Chin up and smile and know that we have a great staff, strategic, and we will close with an awesome class. No insider here, just a very long time observer. War Eagle, sleep well. We are in good hands, and more. WDE!
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 12:03 am to
I will coach Freeze the benefit of the doubt but this recruiting class should be the floor not the standard. Since records of such have been kept each coach has signed single digit recruiting classes. From Tubbs all the way to Gus. The only difference is none have done it against Saban and Kirby. Yall are to quick to forget history.

It’s pretty elite to do some of the things Freeze has done in year one but by his own admission he has sacrificed other parts of being head coach for the good of recruiting.

At the end of the day we have to stack 3-4-5 classes of top 8 classes to accomplish the things we want to accomplish.
Posted by auburn22
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 6:16 am to
You are right about CHF. He has been focus on recruiting more than any head coach this time of the year. I think he would have made the 1 QB call earlier if not for the focus on recruiting .
Posted by Johnnycrane
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 6:43 am to
Tubbs had like three elite classes but his floor was the basement though. He had some "it's duck hunting season classes" that boggled my mind and led to his end. Ole tubbs was however GREAT at developing players and getting the most out of a 2-3 star. Gus Bus would have top 6 classes, BUT would squander or fail at developing players like nobody I've ever seen. If freeze can out recruit Gus and develop like tubbs then we may have something.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 9:13 am
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 6:47 am to
Part of Tuberville’s undoing on the trail was the onslaught of non qualifiers toward the end
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:35 am to
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I will coach Freeze the benefit of the doubt but this recruiting class should be the floor not the standard.

Freeze has said this much himself. I think it was right before the season started or right before fall camp, doesn't matter really, but I heard him say in an interview that the '25 and '26 classes will really tell the tale on how successful the program can be.

Even with as good as this class looks to be, it could have been substantially better. But Freeze and staff were behind the 8 ball just due to time constraints. Some of the elite '24 kids were already committed elsewhere when Freeze got hired. Other programs had a couple years of scouting and relationships before he ever got to Auburn.

There is much to be excited about as an Auburn fan right now. And I can't say that has been the case for myself in a while.
Posted by CharlieTiger
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:37 am to
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Part of Tuberville’s undoing on the trail was the onslaught of non qualifiers toward the end



I know this is second hand info, but a roommate of mine at the time was good friends with a trainer for the team under Tuberville and he said he basically just stopped trying toward the end. There were days that he had to be reminded of players names, if that tells you anything. Take it fwiw.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:39 am to
That lines up with things I remember hearing at the time from a buddy of mine who was a walk on during the end of Tuberville's tenure.
Posted by AUgryphon
Member since Dec 2017
238 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:51 am to
Dukes made the observation about the 2025 class that Auburn could get every player they wanted and it still might be the number 7 class if our staff's evaluations don't line up with the recruiting services. He was justifying why next year's class may not be top 5, and I thought it was a good point.

That's how we should judge this class: did Hugh get who he wanted, or did he have to go plan B at some positions (and how good is plan B)? If the class goes like some projections have it, then there are only a couple of players that we really wanted and didn't get.

I am confused about what Freeze really wants at corner back. Are Amon Lane and Jalyn Crawford our top choices, and do they see Solomon (assuming he flips back to us) as a corner or a safety. They haven't publicly brought anyone else in, so I have to believe these guys are plan A.
Posted by AUgryphon
Member since Dec 2017
238 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:13 am to
I stumbled upon an Eziomume tweet "I just want to take care of my mom..." And there is a comment below that about him taking Clemson out of his bio. The On3 guys don't talk about him much so I thought the ship had sailed, but it appears something is happening. Might be a different team.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34604 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:17 am to
I wonder if Lane-Ganus is a fit more in our Star position. Corch probably has a better idea on that.

I think we’re going to have to address Corner in the portal. Probably need 2 starters there

I like Kayin Lee. Don’t really know what’s the deal with Rhym. Colton Hood, Tyler Scott, JC Hart are too young to have a read on them yet.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 9:18 am
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:20 am to
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I stumbled upon an Eziomume tweet "I just want to take care of my mom..." And there is a comment below that about him taking Clemson out of his bio. The On3 guys don't talk about him much so I thought the ship had sailed, but it appears something is happening. Might be a different team.


Latest is that Eziomume is maybe the only possible guy at this point. They mentioned that in the last pod. Sounds like Riley will go somewhere else if it’s not Miami but they don’t think it’s Auburn

Hope we gave Eziomume the bag. I like him if we can get him. Not a big deal either way
Posted by Johnnycrane
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2022
1514 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:23 am to
Jayln Crawford was a top guy on their board from what I know. I'm with Duke on evaluations. We all know who the staff identified early on. If Hugh gets a top 3-5 guy at every position then I could give a damn about the websites. Waller was a 5star guy who suddenly gets bumped down because of a 40 time even though that doesn't compare to the film which is dominant? As long as we don't have an entire class of reaches I'm fine
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:27 am to
Tubs had two classes like that and neither were really his fault. One was after jetgate and the other was Sabans first year and nobody saw that coming to the extent it did
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:29 am to
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I wonder if Lane-Ganus is a fit more in our Star position. Corch probably has a better idea on that.


Kind of where I thought he may end up.

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I think we’re going to have to address Corner in the portal. Probably need 2 starters there

I like Kayin Lee. Don’t really know what’s the deal with Rhym. Colton Hood, Tyler Scott, JC Hart are too young to have a read on them yet.




At least one. I think Lee has shown a lot this year and I'd probably be okay if he was a starter next year. You're right on the rest, too unsure to know anything. Champ Anthony has started getting some playing time lately and has looked okay as well, but too early to tell on him.
Posted by AUgryphon
Member since Dec 2017
238 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:31 am to
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I like Kayin Lee. Don’t really know what’s the deal with Rhym. Colton Hood, Tyler Scott, JC Hart are too young to have a read on them yet.


I agree. We took a lot of dudes last year, but who knows if any of them are good. Hood is the only name I've heard mentioned, and he's at safety.
Posted by atwitsendAU
Shizuoka, Japan
Member since Jul 2023
1015 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:33 am to
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Part of Tuberville’s undoing on the trail was the onslaught of non qualifiers toward the end


Succinctly put. Off the top of my head,Gus had his share too, though less glaring. Top-ranked classes with non-qualifiers, flips, etc. It was what it was.

But it is not now. CHF and staff are not fricking around. Good to go.
Posted by Johnnycrane
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2022
1514 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:16 am to
He had one class that was exceptionally bad because he got lazy and depended on his connections and ability to develop a bit too much. When tubbs was focused he could recruit with the best of them though.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21897 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:22 am to
Amon probably slot corner. He’s a small guy smaller than you would think. Elite speed. Much like other younger players shouldn’t expect much for the first couple of year. Then see where the depth chart is. I’m not high on Amon at all. I’m very surprised he is at a team like Auburn. The kid is great and his journey greater but I’ve seen a lot of players and personally don’t think he SEC caliber
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24107 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 10:34 am to
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Don’t really know what’s the deal with Rhym.

I remember being pretty excited when he flipped to us from LSU. He has the potential to be solid. Played very well at a top GA football school in Valdosta. The knock on him out of HS were questions about strength and top end speed. He has good size from what I remember (6'1-2" and about 170-180 I think).

I checked his stats and he has appeared in only 3 games this year: Samford, A&M, and LSU. I think the Aggy and LSU games he was needed because of injuries. He has 1 INT against Samford and 6 total tackles across those 3 games. This website says he played in all 12 games last season with 1 start and 14 total tackles.

IDK, maybe he finally puts it all together and breaks out next year. But I agree with yall that we don't really know a whole lot about the quality of the depth at CB right now. Kinda scary.
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