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Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:12 pm to GenesChin
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:12 pm to GenesChin
Harris is a practice squad player... don't think he's ever been on an active NFL roster.... and patrick is about to get processed.
but i get your point... an LB prospect from AL would be foolish not to seriously look at alabama.
but i get your point... an LB prospect from AL would be foolish not to seriously look at alabama.
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:12 pm to GenesChin
You're making my point for me. Uat sends more LBs to the NFL, because they sign more quality LBs. You can continue to lick $aban's nutz if you want, but until we start signing those same caliber players, they will always send more players to the NFL. It's not hard to understand. Let $aban sign Jake Holland type LBs and us sign CJ Moseley types. Whose gonna have more players drafted? Duh
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:15 pm to jvilletiger25
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Uat sends more LBs to the NFL, because they sign more quality LBs.
The point is that they still actually send them to the league
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but until we start signing those same caliber players
Auburn has Cass Mckinzy, Kris Frost, Ladarius Owens and (lolz) Jake Holland all as former 4*+ and not a single one of them is being mentioned as being serious draft targets without a serious improvement.
The point I am making is that Saban's "My LBs go to the league" isn't bullshite. It is true and you can't argue with it.
You don't fire someone for buying IBM bro. Bama has a long track record there and I don't see how you can fault a kid for choosing them if they are a LB right now
Hopefully Auburn can get themselves to that level
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:17 pm to lowspark12
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Harris is a practice squad player... don't think he's ever been on an active NFL roster.... and patrick is about to get processed.
Harris is at a level basically on par with any LB Auburn has put out since Will Herring. Patrick just graduated after his 5th year in which he caused a LSU fumble
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but i get your point... an LB prospect from AL would be foolish not to seriously look at alabama.
Exactly. While Alabama gets the best talent, truth be told they have an extremely good ratio of getting that talent to the league eventually. Argue with it all you want but it is the truth
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:18 pm to GenesChin
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:18 pm to jvilletiger25
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You're making my point for me. Uat sends more LBs to the NFL, because they sign more quality LBs. You can continue to lick $aban's nutz if you want, but until we start signing those same caliber players, they will always send more players to the NFL. It's not hard to understand. Let $aban sign Jake Holland type LBs and us sign CJ Moseley types. Whose gonna have more players drafted? Duh
No doubt. Sums it up in a nutshell.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:20 pm to AUCE05
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We have more LBers in the NFL, fwiw, per ESPN
I am talking strictly about getting players to the NFL or drafted. What they do once they get there (McClain) is different.
Also, I am saying in the Saban era so you have to take off guys like Dansby and Groves.
Finally, Corey Lemonier started as a DE so a little unfair to include him since we didn't develop him as a LB or his position
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:22 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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No doubt. Sums it up in a nutshell.
No this sums it up
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i get your point... an LB prospect from AL would be foolish not to seriously look at alabama.
Someone said Saban was selling crap to Rashaan and all these kids. That is fricking homerish and ridiculous. He gets his kids to the league whether it is talent or not. Powerful argument and if you think that isn't a legit argument you are an idiot
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:22 pm to jvilletiger25
I feel for the Auburn coaches that had to be put through this childish garbage. You cannot tell me that this kid didn't know who he was going to choose until this morning. He played our coaches and invited them to a ridiculous birthday party in which our coaches sacrificed their dignity and acted like dancing bears for his amusement. It sure makes you respect young men with class that tell the coaches straight up where they are going. This kid behaved like a colossal punk to a school that educated his family. The world is round bud.
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:24 pm to GenesChin
quote:Daren Bates and Josh Bynes have both had a better NFL career so far than JH.
Harris is at a level basically on par with any LB Auburn has put out since Will Herring.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:24 pm to GenesChin
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I am talking strictly about getting players to the NFL or drafted. What they do once they get there (McClain) is different. Also, I am saying in the Saban era so you have to take off guys like Dansby and Groves. Finally, Corey Lemonier started as a DE so a little unfair to include him since we didn't develop him as a LB or his position
You're just arguing right now, and you look like a tool. I know you like to sympathize with UA, but you're not bringing facts to this discussion, only emotion.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:29 pm to GenesChin
It's homerish to say that it's crap when they tell a kid, "come to uat, we're the only school that puts players in the NFL!"? Horsesheet
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:33 pm to GenesChin
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Finally, Corey Lemonier started as a DE so a little unfair to include him since we didn't develop him as a LB or his position
Yet you chose to include Ladarious Owens in a post about Auburn's failure to develop linebackers. Look, no one is saying that they don't put LB's in the league but it's not the no brainer you are trying to make it. They have had at least 2 5 star busts and numerous guys like Atchinson and Smith who never amounted to anything. Going to bama as an LB isn't a guaranteed path to the NFL
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:39 pm to Loftonbranch
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I feel for the Auburn coaches that had to be put through this childish garbage. You cannot tell me that this kid didn't know who he was going to choose until this morning. He played our coaches and invited them to a ridiculous birthday party in which our coaches sacrificed their dignity and acted like dancing bears for his amusement. It sure makes you respect young men with class that tell the coaches straight up where they are going. This kid behaved like a colossal punk to a school that educated his family. The world is round bud.
My thoughts exactly!! He certainly broke his word to Gus about giving him the last visit. Instead he made him share it with Kirby Smart in a Pants Off/ Dance Off competition. Did Gus even get an in-home visit with the kid? For someone with supposedly a lot of class, he didn't handle the last week that way.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:40 pm to warau
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Going to bama as an LB isn't a guaranteed path to the NFL
This is pretty much how I feel about the matter.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:42 pm to plazadweller
Just to add facts to this discussion; only one SEC school has more LBers in the NFL than AU. That would be UGA with 7 to our 6. Alabama, who some consider the greatest LBer university in the world, is tied with UT (yes Tennessee who sucks at football) at 5.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:43 pm to GenesChin
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Jerrell Harris who is in the league right now
By "the league" do you mean "practice squad for a Canadian Football League team"?
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:43 pm to plazadweller
Evans measureables and high school position are very similar to Upshaw coming out of high school... CU was 6-2/220... RE is 6-3/217. Upshaw played with his hand on the ground exclusively in college.
will be interesting to follow Evans development of the next couple years.
will be interesting to follow Evans development of the next couple years.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:49 pm to GenesChin
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Also, I am saying in the Saban era so you have to take off guys like Dansby and Groves.
If that's the case, then Bama can't count Jarret Johnson, which gives them all of FOUR linebackers in the NFL... Hightower, Nico Johnson, Demeco Ryans, and Upshaw. (And, no, you don't get to count Jerrell Harris of the CFL.)
As opposed to Auburn's three (Bates, Bynes, Lemonier).
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:53 pm to lowspark12
I cant do 247 anymore. Saw a fire ellis post because the 4-2-5 doesnt work and no national champ ever used it.
God the bodies are piling up in the deep-end abyss.
God the bodies are piling up in the deep-end abyss.
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