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re: MOTHERfrick THIS DEFENSIVE STAFF

Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:05 pm to
Posted by WarEagleWes
Eastaboga
Member since Oct 2014
592 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:05 pm to
The absolute worst defensive call I’ve seen in Auburn history.

As if it wasn’t bad enough that you would only rush 3 on 3 and whatever but to only rush 2 on 4th and mile as inept and CRR should be fired tonight
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3892 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:08 pm to
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This has happened all season. They’ve switched plenty. This is just looking for something to gripe about. The coaches aren’t the one making this change.



What?!

The coaches aren't responsible for who gets to return punts?

Are you telling me the players are deciding? Are they flipping a coin? Playing rock-paper-scissors?

I legit can't tell if you are trolling. Explain to me why Koy Moore, who hadn't touched the ball at all, is all of a sudden in the most pivotal play of the game to try to field a punt. WHY IS HE BACK THERE? Are you telling me they didn't trust Keionte Scott all of a sudden? If that was the case, then why does Scott filed 90%+ of the return attempts?
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38477 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:11 pm to
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But you can’t lose it like that. We won and decided not to win.


Yep… we Missouri’ed ourselves.

The difference is, considering this season and their HC, Missouri learned their lesson and Auburn is repeating the same goddam mistakes.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37533 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:12 pm to
I legit can’t tell what you are having trouble with here. Yes, our punt returner will hold himself out and the backup will go in. It has happened all season. Scott plays a lot of snaps, he sometimes doesn’t field punt returns when he is gassed.

Or are you trying to argue that our coaches are purposefully subbing in the backup punt returner all season just for the heck of it? Freeze said it himself that Scott must have held himself out on that punt return. Melt all you want, but it’s the reality. Players have some say in who is on the field.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3892 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:19 pm to
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I legit can’t tell what you are having trouble with here. Yes, our punt returner will hold himself out and the backup will go in. It has happened all season. Scott plays a lot of snaps, he sometimes doesn’t field punt returns when he is gassed.

Or are you trying to argue that our coaches are purposefully subbing in the backup punt returner all season just for the heck of it? Freeze said it himself that Scott must have held himself out on that punt return. Melt all you want, but it’s the reality. Players have some say in who is on the field.


Oh, that makes it totally OK then!

The coaches just got over-ruled by the player who was too tired to run a few feet, wave his hand, and catch the football!

Even if I play along and pretend like it's perfectly normal for players to decide they all of a sudden don't want to play; why would you be perplexed that a replacement punt returner who returned ZERO PUNTS IN THE GAME all of a sudden muffed one? Wouldn't you say that is probably why every team in the country tries to find one guy to do that job and doesn't dick around by swapping returners?

So none of the coaches could simply tell Keionte Scott to man up and just catch the ball? Note that no one was even asking for him to break the return and run 60+ yards for a TD. The ask was to literally just call a fair catch and catch the ball. Again, he was TOO TIRED? frick off.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37533 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:21 pm to
Melt away bud. Melt away.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
33586 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:25 pm to
If you aint melting after that you aint Auburn
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37533 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:27 pm to
I don’t need to melt, I have bourbon. Lots and lots of bourbon. And I got my melting out in the stadium.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 7:27 pm
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
19848 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:31 pm to
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The ask was to literally just call a fair catch and catch the ball. Again, he was TOO TIRED? frick off.


Agreed. Unless Scott had injured hands, he should have caught the punt.

Sounds soft not being out there. In a game like this, I’d want every opportunity to help seal the win.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45436 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:32 pm to
Yall are going off the rails now.

Cant blame Scott.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37533 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:37 pm to
Nobody is saying why he was or wasn’t out there. All I was referencing was that there have been plenty of times where he takes himself out as the returner during games. It happens quite often. I just used that as a reason why it happens. The coaches aren’t just switching returners on a whim, generally speaking that is far more at the discretion of the players in that specific situation, as it has been all season.


Let’s get back to my original point. Going scorched earth on our staff is silly. They called a very good game. We just failed when it mattered most, both coaches and players.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
14515 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:41 pm to
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Let’s get back to my original point. Going scorched earth on our staff is silly
so no fricking accountability. Great idea! At least your not melting! Moron
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37533 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:42 pm to


Want to try that again?
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30192 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:43 pm to
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So none of the coaches could simply tell Keionte Scott to man up and just catch the ball?

This. They’ve conditioned all year. Catch the ball.

Players don’t need to be substituting each other. That’s a lack of leadership by the coaching staff.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
36259 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:45 pm to
Paid off.

Only possible answer
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45436 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:47 pm to
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This. They’ve conditioned all year. Catch the ball.

He was also playing like a stud. Trust me, it isnt his fault his replacement cant catch a cold.

If he is inserted while out of breath then bad things happen then as well.
Posted by CreweBilt
Member since Oct 2017
626 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:53 pm to
In the postgame Presser (which apparently only I bothered to watch), Hugh thought Scott was the punt returner. It took a reporter pointing out that the returner was Moore, not Scott.
When confronted, Hugh indicated that if that was the case, that he'd need to check with Tanner about why Moore was in instead of Scott -- but it had to be because "Scott took himself out".
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3892 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:53 pm to
The idea that one of the most competitive and hard nosed players on the entire roster all of a sudden chose the most pivotal punt return of the entire game to "sit out" is completely unbelievable to me. If that is normal football occurrence to you, I don't even know what to say.

Unless he is legitimately hurt, the coaches absolutely do have the power to tell him to grow a pair and get his arse on the field, if he legitimately sat himself because he was "tired".

But I'll continue playing along. Let's pretend Scott is legitimately hurt and it HAS to be Koy Moore all of a sudden back there. The ONLY thing that you can't allow on that play is a muffed punt. Why didn't the coaches hammer it into Moore's head to simply let the ball bounce over his head on ANYHING sketchy? He had to come in with a crowd around him to catch that punt: why was he not instructed to let the ball bounce on anything difficult?

Or let me guess, the coaches don't have that power either lol?
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
66688 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:54 pm to
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In the postgame Presser (which apparently only I bothered to watch), Hugh thought Scott was the punt returner. It took a reporter pointing out that the returner was Moore, not Scott.
When confronted, Hugh indicated that if that was the case, that he'd need to check with Tanner about why Moore was in instead of Scott -- but it had to be because "Scott took himself out".





In other words, its not my fault. The players changed when we were not looking


Regardless which one was in there, they have to be able to field a punt on a fair catch. Especially in our 12th game of the year






This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 7:56 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45436 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:58 pm to
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re: MOTHERfrick THIS DEFENSIVE STAFFPosted on 11/25/23 at 7:53 pm to Rhino5
The idea that one of the most competitive and hard nosed players on the entire roster all of a sudden chose the most pivotal punt return of the entire game to "sit out" is completely unbelievable to me. If that is normal football occurrence to you, I don't even know what to say.

Players motion for their sub all the time. The punt was pivotal in the sense that we were playing awesome in the next play is pivotal kind of way. The punt was not pivotal in any other way. More of a next man up deal.
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