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Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:11 am to TheJones
No you're right. Over the past five years we've had 11, 11, 13, 11, and 12 scholarship players. It limits your ability to take developmental players and only take guys to contribute, but it's not that bad.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:12 am to TheJones
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The panel classified the case as Level I-aggravated for the associate head coach, Level I-aggravated for the school, Level I-mitigated for the former assistant coach and Level I-mitigated for the head coach. The panel used the Division I membership-approved infractions penalty guidelines to prescribe the following measures:
Four years of probation.
A 2020-21 postseason ban for the men's basketball team (self-imposed).
A $5,000 fine plus 3% of the men's basketball program budget.
A reduction of one scholarship during the 2020-21 academic year (self-imposed). The program must reduce the total number of scholarships by two during the term of probation.
A reduction in the number of official visits in men's basketball to 20 during the 2017-18/2018-19 rolling two-year period (self-imposed).
A ban on unofficial visits for 19 weeks during the 2017-18 academic year (self-imposed).
A ban on recruiting phone calls for a 20-week period during the 2017-18 academic year (self-imposed).
A reduction in the number of recruiting person days in men's basketball by 82 days during the 2017-18 academic year (self-imposed).
A 10-year show-cause order for the former associate head coach. During that period, any NCAA member school employing him must restrict him from any athletically related duties unless it shows cause why the restrictions should not apply.
A one-year show-cause order for the former assistant coach. During that period, any NCAA member school employing him must restrict him from any athletically related duties unless it shows cause why the restrictions should not apply.
A two-game suspension for the head coach during the 2021-22 academic year immediately following the release of the panel's decision.
A vacation of all team records in which student-athletes competed while ineligible.
The panel classified the case as Level I-aggravated for the associate head coach, Level I-aggravated for the school, Level I-mitigated for the former assistant coach and Level I-mitigated for the head coach. The panel used the Division I membership-approved infractions penalty guidelines to prescribe the following measures:
Four years of probation.
A 2020-21 postseason ban for the men's basketball team (self-imposed).
A $5,000 fine plus 3% of the men's basketball program budget.
A reduction of one scholarship during the 2020-21 academic year (self-imposed). The program must reduce the total number of scholarships by two during the term of probation.
A reduction in the number of official visits in men's basketball to 20 during the 2017-18/2018-19 rolling two-year period (self-imposed).
A ban on unofficial visits for 19 weeks during the 2017-18 academic year (self-imposed).
A ban on recruiting phone calls for a 20-week period during the 2017-18 academic year (self-imposed).
A reduction in the number of recruiting person days in men's basketball by 82 days during the 2017-18 academic year (self-imposed).
A 10-year show-cause order for the former associate head coach. During that period, any NCAA member school employing him must restrict him from any athletically related duties unless it shows cause why the restrictions should not apply.
A one-year show-cause order for the former assistant coach. During that period, any NCAA member school employing him must restrict him from any athletically related duties unless it shows cause why the restrictions should not apply.
A two-game suspension for the head coach during the 2021-22 academic year immediately following the release of the panel's decision.
A vacation of all team records in which student-athletes competed while ineligible.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:13 am to AA7
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No you're right. Over the past five years we've had 11, 11, 13, 11, and 12 scholarship players. It limits your ability to take developmental players and only take guys to contribute, but it's not that bad.
We self imposed
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:14 am to jangalang
Looks like most of the self imposed punishments did the trick. Happy to be moving forward finally
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:20 am to TheJones
Loss of scholarships is horsecrap. I would get the next 5-star we commit and insure that someone comes up with a large NIL for them to cover their school and show them as a walk-on. Just as a big F-U to the NCAA. We should just do every player like that and show them all as walk-ons. The NCAA is a joke.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:23 am to wareaglepete
We should appeal on principle but the punishment isn’t too bad. And they making our compliance Richard the GOAT of all Richards.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:24 am to jangalang
Load of shite on scholarships reduction but we should just shut our mouths and move on
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:26 am to HailToTheChiz
Nah. I see absolutely no harm in trying to dwindle those seasons of scholly losses down to 3
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:29 am to jangalang
It's only 1 over 4 years. I think we'll be ok. 
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:30 am to Smoke7024
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It's only 1 over 4 years
You mean 2 right?
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:30 am to jangalang
I think it said we'd already self imposed 1, but I could be wrong.
Even if two, it's only 2 over a 4 year period.
Even if two, it's only 2 over a 4 year period.
This post was edited on 12/10/21 at 11:32 am
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:36 am to Smoke7024
Yeah we we self imposed one. Now NCAA is going to be self imposing 2 for the next four years.
Starting off the season with 11 players is never a big deal until injuries and flu like symptoms symptoms start popping up.
Starting off the season with 11 players is never a big deal until injuries and flu like symptoms symptoms start popping up.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:37 am to jangalang
It's not 2 a year. It's 2 total.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:38 am to Smoke7024
I don’t think that’s accurate.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:39 am to jangalang
It's accurate
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Four years of probation
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A reduction of one scholarship during the 2020-21 academic year (self-imposed). The program must reduce the total number of scholarships by two during the term of probation.
This post was edited on 12/10/21 at 11:41 am
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:39 am to TheJones
I'm curious on the'vacation of all school records in which the players were ineligible'....
So we will NOT lose any more wins bc of this? I assume when the 2 were deemed inelgible were when we suspended them.
Am I reading this part right?
So we will NOT lose any more wins bc of this? I assume when the 2 were deemed inelgible were when we suspended them.
Am I reading this part right?
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:41 am to jangalang
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but the punishment isn’t too bad
Yeah, but we did more than enough for the crime. Just think, we are in a world today where college players can get paid millions of dollars and we are getting hit for this, 5 years after the fact. This is crap. The P5 should tell the NCAA to suck it. I was not in favor of NIL and I do think it will hurt the sport, but if that is the way it has to be, then screw the NCAA, they have no place here. Clown world.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:48 am to wareaglepete
We already did enough with self impositions. What the NCAA added was unnecessary. The fact that it took them so long should be criminal. The NCAA, as we know, is a joke.
I'm just glad it's over and we can get on to whipping some arse.
I'm just glad it's over and we can get on to whipping some arse.
This post was edited on 12/10/21 at 11:51 am
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:51 am to aubiecat
I expected much worse. 
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