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I miss the one sleeved QB.

Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:25 pm
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:25 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39726 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:33 pm to
Thorne was wearing a sleeve at yesterday’s practice.

Our entire team needs to get their sleeve game back. It has been sorely lacking and the results show.
This post was edited on 8/8/24 at 6:34 pm
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:02 pm to
Downvoted you for bringing Throne into a thread about the master.


Shame on you baw.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:33 pm to


Last second TD throws are not difficult for him.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19261 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:47 pm to
I've never seen a QB better at the zone read than Marshall. Gus loved to do a lot of "eye candy" and fakes and Marshall was perfect for it.
Posted by LanierSpots
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:55 pm to
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30790 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 9:06 pm to
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I've never seen a QB better at the zone read than Marshall. Gus loved to do a lot of "eye candy" and fakes and Marshall was perfect for
Why Gus stopped recruiting qbs that could run it is beyond anyone. He never really explained why he moved away from what worked.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/8/24 at 9:10 pm to
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He never really explained why he moved away from what worked.


Rule changes.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4428 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:00 pm to
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Why Gus stopped recruiting qbs that could run it is beyond anyone. He never really explained why he moved away from what worked.



I mean, he didn't stop recruiting QB's that could run (Bo Nix? John Franklin?). That was just a flash-in-the-pan offense that worked once. If it was a viable base offense then some other team would have copied and had similar success - it hasn't happened.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:43 pm to
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I mean, he didn't stop recruiting QB's that could run (Bo Nix? John Franklin?). That was just a flash-in-the-pan offense that worked once. If it was a viable base offense then some other team would have copied and had similar success - it hasn't happened.


That and it kind of undersells just what a unique talent Nick was. Guys that can do what he did are rare.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Posted on 8/9/24 at 6:29 am to
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That and it kind of undersells just what a unique talent Nick was. Guys that can do what he did are rare.


Truth spoken.

There are a lot of athletic and fast guys that can run that offense (Malik Willis) but none like Marshall.

His decision making and his explosiveness were so much fun to watch. He could not be stopped.

The dude rolled up almost 600 yards of offense on a saban coached Alabama defense.

The rules had to be changed to protect the “special teams”.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4428 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 9:40 am to
It wasn't just Nick Marshall. Go watch that season again and look at Greg Robinson pushing guys 15 yards down field every play. Most of the runs were to Robinson's side. When they lost Robinson and Prosch (and Mason) after that season, the offense had to rely much more on Marshall throwing the ball the following year. Why didn't they just go back to running over everyone play after play in 2014? Well, they couldn't lol.

2010 and 2013 were fluke seasons where somehow all of the required pieces were in place to flawlessly execute the offense that we ultimately ended up seeing, and no one got hurt. Gus Malzahn didn't "stop" trying to replicate that - the problem is that it is incredibly rare for seasons like that to materialize in the first place. If it was that easy to just create an offense where you run the ball 70% of the time and no one can stop you, don't you think that every other program in the country would be doing it as well? The idea that Malzahn stopped trying is nonsense - who was his QB at UCF? John Rhys Plumlee.

People mistook how "easy" 2013 seemed into thinking that you just needed to plug a running QB with a good RB and *poof* you just run your way to the National Championship game. It is much more complicated than that.
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
8342 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 9:40 am to
He really was the perfect qb for malzahns system. Teams were afraid to blitz him because all he needed was a crease and he could go from anywhere. he was accurate enough and threw a very underrated deep ball that kept defenses honest. And to top it off all his years of wizard training made him borderline erotica running the zone read. All he needed was a second of hesitation from the defense whether it be from tired legs from running pace or waiting to see if Tre had the ball and que the band
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22526 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 10:01 am to
The defense was dogshit in 2014… the offense, while not 2013 level, was still very good.

Auburn was top 20 nationally in total offense in 2014… and second only to Dak and MSU in the conference.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39726 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 10:04 am to
His correct read % was off the charts. It was something like he made the correct read on the zone read like ~90% of the time, which is insane.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9020 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 10:10 pm to
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