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Posted on 11/6/22 at 10:43 am to jangalang
Posted on 11/6/22 at 10:43 am to jangalang
quote:They just have no legit argument for their favorites and are trying to pretend they would rather lose than hire Freeze. If that's the case we might as well promote Carnell and hope for the best because they aren't going to get anyone that fits all their checkmarks and it comes down to consistent winning against the best or morals and no one else on the list fits all winning checks. It's dumb things like this that has us hiring a bunch of unknown for dumb reasons and wonder in a few years why we are still not winning. We aren't hiring proven winners are just gambling.
The Freeze haters don’t think he cannot coach. Stop approaching your argument as if they do. They think he is a thug POS hence where people are turned off by Freeze.
If they want to compare personality, Deion still acts like a conceded 5* recruit when he talks. Definitely someone that is mature. Lane has been laughed out of every program he's coached at (except OM for now) and still isn't "grown up" enough to be a man when someone says something. They just aren't relevant enough to anyone for people to start digging through their personal life.
This post was edited on 11/6/22 at 10:51 am
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 10:47 am to jangalang
THIS! And most aren’t willing to look past his constant stupidity to win football games!
Posted on 11/6/22 at 10:50 am to Rabern57
Im pretty sure others have had 100% legit reasons for the people they want to hire but its apparent you want freeze and arent paying attention to what people are saying about the coaches they want. You act like freeze is the only coach that can come to auburn and win. I bet every coach thats been named on the list can do the exact same thing freeze could do and probably do it cheaper without having to deal with sexton. Lane being the only coach that would want more money.
This post was edited on 11/6/22 at 10:53 am
Posted on 11/6/22 at 10:54 am to Blueline379
quote:If they aren't on the field then it's irrelevant. If they want to compete in morals then that's not a sport and then we can see who we can get that just has the best morals and won't have to compare football coaching.
Im pretty sure others have had 100% legit reasons for the people they want to hire but its apparent you want freeze and arent paying attention to what people are saying about the coaches they want.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 10:55 am to lowspark12
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Pittman struggling is why I’m not keen on Prime… just bc you can recruit is nice,
Two different things. Pittman can’t recruit like Prime will. I would be all in on Prime and have faith he would have a great staff.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 10:56 am to Blueline379
Look my whole point is that Kiffin is my #1 choice. I think he’s a full fit for us, but and I mean BUT!!!!! If we hired Hugh Freeze I think he would be a good hire. Dude is hungry to win. Plus not only did he beat an SEC school with inferior talent. He took an Auburn player and turned him into a heisman trophy candidate who was drafted in the first round. He can put men into the NFL and he can actually coach a player up. I just think all the mediocre talk is nonsense until proven to be so.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 10:58 am to AuburnTigers
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OMG, he should be in JAIL!!! The pearl clutching is very woman like. Over the top emotion
If you’re too much of a fricking moron to not get why this is a problem then I don’t know what to tell you. Hiring hookers is one thing, but him sending private messages to a rape victim is unconscionable.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 10:58 am to Blueline379
quote:No I'm sure there are plenty of no names to come that can but compared to the list, none on there compare. As far who can do it for cheaper have proven to be worse coaches than Freeze more times than not or are straight gamble hires that are just as likely or more to end us back here in 3 years. It's why they are cheaper.
You act like freeze is the only coach that can come to auburn and win.
This post was edited on 11/6/22 at 10:59 am
Posted on 11/6/22 at 10:58 am to jangalang
quote:He just doesn't have the "it factor". Amirite? Too much experience, develops player and puts them in the NFL, and a record of beating teams with more talent and resources. Lots to hate about that guy!
The Freeze haters don’t think he cannot coach. Stop approaching your argument as if they do. They think he is a thug POS hence where people are turned off by Freeze.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 10:59 am to Rabern57
So what makes freeze so much more qualified than 1) kiffin. 2) rhule 3) fickle?
Posted on 11/6/22 at 11:00 am to Rabern57
Agree. Forget faults, and select the best coach to get us back in the top tier! No one walking this earth is a perfect man
Posted on 11/6/22 at 11:03 am to jangalang
quote:new to the board? In case you missed it, for months now the haters have been saying just that. Posting his "record".
The Freeze haters don’t think he cannot coach. Stop approaching your argument as if they do
Posted on 11/6/22 at 11:09 am to TheMidnightTiger
Like jang said i dont think freeze is a bad coach at all. Its apparent he can develop and recruit. But nothing says any of the other guys mentioned couldnt do the exact same thing without the attached baggage. Im sure lane has coached up some pretty damn good qbs in his time. Rhule has taken a team coming off an essential death penalty and won 11 games. Did the same thing at temple. So to say freeze is “the obvious choice” doesnt make sense. Im happy liberty beat byu and Arkansas but face it Arkansas sucks and so do we right now. Byu is as temperamental as a woman and you never know what you will get. Its not knocking freeze on his accomplishments at liberty.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 11:12 am to jangalang
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The Freeze haters don’t think he cannot coach. Stop approaching your argument as if they do.
That's really not true. I would know because I spent months arguing with people on the sheer basis of his actual coaching history. "He's just Malzahn with off-field problems", remember? Mix in lots of really dumb takes about how it wasn't good enough for him to go from a losing team to a 10 win Sugar Bowl win in 4 seasons at Ole Miss because he didn't win the West while Alabama was at their peak. Oh, and "he only went 8-5 at Liberty with an NFL QB".
The receipts are pretty endless. Lots of people on here have been engaging in mental gymnastics to convince themselves that he's just an average coach.
This post was edited on 11/6/22 at 11:13 am
Posted on 11/6/22 at 11:13 am to AuburnTigers
Freeze would probably be a good hire here but I don’t want to hire him because I just don’t like him. Same way Kirby would be a good hire here but I don’t want him here because I don’t like him. I’d rather hire someone who is a good hire and I like. Why can’t I have both things? Or at least hope for it?
This post was edited on 11/6/22 at 11:14 am
Posted on 11/6/22 at 11:15 am to AuburnTigers
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new to the board? In case you missed it, for months now the haters have been saying just that. Posting his "record".
They were posting his NCAA adjusted record which shows a losing record due to his being a POS
Posted on 11/6/22 at 11:17 am to metafour
Ok so be it. I know for a fact though he is a good coach with a crappy history.
I told you myself that if it wasn’t for his history he would already be at Texas or Oklahoma, anywhere that’s an upgrade to Ole Miss.
I told you myself that if it wasn’t for his history he would already be at Texas or Oklahoma, anywhere that’s an upgrade to Ole Miss.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 11:19 am to greygoose
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He just doesn't have the "it factor". Amirite? Too much experience, develops player and puts them in the NFL, and a record of beating teams with more talent and resources. Lots to hate about that guy!
How did he treat his own family? Just curious.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 11:19 am to Blueline379
Bro pleaaaaaase stop saying Rhule. Just makes you look like you don’t pay attention to anything Auburn. Man is pure garbage and RUINED our top QB in our history. Unforgivable right off the rip. Second the dude has ZERO SEC experience and has no ties to recruiting in the SEC. We just got done learning this lesson. Ontop of it all he’s a stiff a-hole who I don’t want around this program. I will sit here and let people say Lashlee and Steele because it’s funny at this point, but leave that grotesque man’s name out of this program. Shame on any Auburn fan who mentions Matt Freaking Rhule as a legit candidate for this job.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 11:24 am to Blueline379
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So what makes freeze so much more qualified than 1) kiffin. 2) rhule 3) fickle?
1) They are both qualified, especially on offense. But I think Freeze actually cares about defense. Lane coaches like he's in the Big-12 and prefers to win 55-49. The days of holding good teams to 10 are over, but Kiffin takes it to the extreme.
2) Rhule is qualified, but he's never coached in the SEC and has no southern ties. Rhule can coach, but I think Freeze would recruit better.
3) Freeze is more qualified than Fickle. Not a fan of G5 guys who've never coached P5. Also, Fickle has never coached outside the state of Ohio. (At least Harsin coached in Texas and Arkansas).
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