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Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:47 pm to Poker Dough
Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:47 pm to Poker Dough
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Don't care anymore but post here....
Yeah, does that bother you?
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:49 pm to WarEagleWes
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We bitched about lack of recruiting for years. Now we got a guy that can actually get players but for some reason can’t seem to coach on game day.
We got to give Freeze at least two more years if not more.
If he cant coach these players, what would make us think he can coach better players?
We are a top 20 program talent wise. On the field, we are not even a top 50 team
Talent will not make us better.
Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:49 pm to i am dan
Get freeze out
Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:51 pm to FlyDownTheField
Yea he sux. Going nowhere with him
Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:51 pm to WarEagleWes
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We got to give Freeze at least two more years if not more.
The jig is up now. Recruits are being sold on a program trajectory that now looks entirely out of reach. Hugh looks like he has no idea what he’s doing. All the talk is so transparently empty now.
Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:52 pm to FlyDownTheField
Hugh peaked at Ole Miss. He has done an absolutely piss poor job at putting together a roster. I’m off the Hugh train until he puts a competent product on the field.
Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:52 pm to FlyDownTheField
Please just stop this shite.
Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:53 pm to Je23Mo
Surrounds himself with his buddies. Kent Austin belongs nowhere near an SEC field.
Posted on 9/21/24 at 6:08 pm to FlyDownTheField
Stfu he’s not on the hot seat and if he is you might as well flush the next 15 years down the drain.
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:37 pm to wareaglepete
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Why fire him? The genius PTB will just hire someone as bad or worse
Rhett Lashlee come on down
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:53 pm to LanierSpots
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We are a top 20 program talent wise
No we aren't. Regardless of what some recruiting service says about our "blue chip ratio" or whatever they call it. That goes off where they were evaluated out of HS and has nothing to do with what they've done on the field at a college program. The vast majority of out talent are freshmen. Whether redshirt or true. Plus as you've continually pointed out: the most important position still isn't there.
But to continually point to the recruiting services blue chip percentage is garbage stat to point to why we have lost. Especially as Auburn fans since we have seen players the likes of Byron Cowart who was top of the list of that "talent" that gets pointed to flail and flounder in the college game. shite, Cam Coleman, our most "talented" player on offense may be responsible for more turnovers than touchdowns this year.
The real reason is turnovers and plays run/TOP.
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:55 pm to IAmNERD
Got Dam. Your post just got me hAUrd.
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:56 pm to IAmNERD
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But to continually point to the recruiting services blue chip percentage is garbage stat to point to why we have lost.
So how is talent to be measured? That method measures all teams the same. The guy in the recruiting thread seem to like that method. Especially since we are doing well right now
What is a acceptable method of measuring "talent" currently on a team?
Cant be wins and losses. We would have to consider too many other factors in that.
Posted on 9/21/24 at 10:02 pm to LanierSpots
I don’t think it matters what talent we recruit. Our coach can’t coach them. He is a played out fraud.
The next few years will be the absolute bottom of AU football. It’s going to suck. Maybe in 8-19 years we will see us winning again.
Maybe.
The next few years will be the absolute bottom of AU football. It’s going to suck. Maybe in 8-19 years we will see us winning again.
Maybe.
Posted on 9/21/24 at 10:04 pm to LanierSpots
The ratio tried to say we had a more talented team than Ole Miss last year. That might be so, but it was pretty clear their identified talent were more cohesively fielded. They had guys that fit the system.
We have a blue chipper in Guriner so we needed Thorne. If that tells you anything about talent. Does anyone know if we would call Guriner talented as related to his SEC peers? P5 peers? New Mexico had a pretty impressive QB.
We have a blue chipper in Guriner so we needed Thorne. If that tells you anything about talent. Does anyone know if we would call Guriner talented as related to his SEC peers? P5 peers? New Mexico had a pretty impressive QB.
Posted on 9/21/24 at 10:08 pm to LanierSpots
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So how is talent to be measured?
My eyes.
One highly ranked ON3 superstar has has had two of the same plays this season bounce off his hands to the other team. One senior Penn State reject took the same route to the house from like 60 yards out. The OL is still not very good, but they aren't abysmal like they were two years ago where every drop back resulted in backyard football where the QB is running around. 3rd straight season of a new OC. Have we ever seen that before? Yep. Most people had written Jason Campbell off until his senior season with the right offensive system for and a bunch of Jr and Sr "talent" to go with it.
No it isn't good at all. But to expect this to turn around in less than two years was crazy. The ENTIRE senior class of this team except for Hunter and maybe one or two other guys transferred out. Seniors are always going to be better than freshmen.
This post was edited on 9/21/24 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 9/21/24 at 10:10 pm to LanierSpots
quote:You keep saying this, but you lack context. An entire roster of 5* players aren't going to do dick as a team, if they are all true freshmen!
We are a top 20 program talent wise. On the field, we are not even a top 50 team
A tale as old as time: great teams are the ones that are loaded with talented, SENIOR leadership! Our recruiting sucked a big 'ol donkey dick under Harsin, and Gus' last two years left our OL decimated. Hell, Gus and Harsin both had a 1st round NFL draft pick on the team! A fricking legacy that transferred to about as far away as a person could get from Auburn! At the same time, Freeze took a Gus reject, and made him a starting NFL QB, at fricking LIBERTY!
Posted on 9/21/24 at 10:11 pm to jangalang
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That might be so, but it was pretty clear their identified talent were more cohesively fielded. They had guys that fit the system.
But isnt that the coaches job to make the talent work? By using that thinking, you are getting very close to measuring talent by how good a "team" you are fielding. Which is the coaches job
I am no as beligerant , or drunk , as WEP right now but I do agree with his melt. I dont see us becoming a winning program with Hugh. I just dont see it happening
I dont have a way of measuring that but I have been fairly correct on these type things in the past. Just a gut feeling by watching him and the team around him.
That dude is not going to ever win 10 games at Auburn. Ever
Posted on 9/21/24 at 10:15 pm to LanierSpots
quote:that part
That dude is not going to ever win 10 games at Auburn. Ever
i will go further, he will never win 8 games in a season as AU’s HC
our best option is to let his contract run out and hope whomever is making the next hire just gets lucky
Posted on 9/21/24 at 10:18 pm to LanierSpots
I believe we were lightly talented last year and the losses were no surprise. Even NM State.
We were more talented than Arkansas. We also played poorly and turned the ball over 5 times yet outgained them in offensive yards.
4 turnovers and 7 points at one point. That's not so much talent but chemistry and scheme to boot
We were more talented than Arkansas. We also played poorly and turned the ball over 5 times yet outgained them in offensive yards.
4 turnovers and 7 points at one point. That's not so much talent but chemistry and scheme to boot
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