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re: Fall scrimmage 2 - Friday 8/19
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:24 pm to TTsTowel
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:24 pm to TTsTowel
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The play-by-play listed on On3 would justify them as being correct. He did not have a good night.
I followed this and I can see how TJ had the better night but I didn't see anything that would create significant separation or that would indicate Calzada had a "very bad" night.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:29 pm to Pettifogger
Numerous sources- people that broke the intra-scrimmage news said it.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:41 pm to jangalang
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Numerous sources- people that broke the intra-scrimmage news said it.
Haven't seen that anywhere but here. I've seen that TJ outperformed Calzada, but I haven't seen anyone say Calzada was "very bad"
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:57 pm to Pettifogger
From JGT:
From a rando insider at the scrimmage:
I don’t know about 247 but similar feedback from ON3
Edit) another rando:
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Calzada not impressing with the 2s so far. Ashford better, but he’s with 2s and 3s.
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Calzada now repping with the 3s, but I wouldn’t ready too much into that. They’re rotating. Sean Jackson is with him.
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Just had an insider express serious concern about Calzada at this point. None of his throws have been notable whereas both Finley and Ashford have a few to their credit today.
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Story so far is Calzada not performing. Gotta be real. I’m surprised.
From a rando insider at the scrimmage:
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QB.
Finley by far looked the best. If I had to base it off what I saw at 1 scrimmage. The Battle for #2 at QB is closer than the Battle for the starting job.
Calzada actually ran with the 3s the first time. He had his shirt rolled up so I thought it was #18. It was with the 3s but him throwing the ball looked rough.... very rough. No way I see him being starter.
Finley looked most comfortable by far. He made some nice reads and nice clutch throws on 3rd & 4th Downs. He went through progressions and took his check Downs. Sometimes even when you want to see him take a shot (ex 3rd & 12 he's throwing 2 yard route to tank). With saying that he did also show some of the quick trigger forcing the ball into coverage or tiny windows when he got pressure on him.
Robby is an athlete, big arm, players like him ,& he is high energy. I think he would benefit with more designed runs, rpo, and not so much a traditional offense
I don’t know about 247 but similar feedback from ON3
Edit) another rando:
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My pops, who played in the mid 60s, and thus has a little different perspective on the game, but nevertheless can still scout and offer good insights, had this to say after attending yesterday's scrimmage:
IMO and only that...
Calzada was not sharp.. throws were not consistently good, not especially quick in the pocket...had one nice TD pass..Ashford definitely the quickest but his throws were not good. Plus he fumbled twice, one a bad snap. TJ improved a bit but still slow to decide when to release and not mobile, although looked trimmer and in good shape. Geriner had very little opportunity and looked nervous as I would surely be also at this stage..
#17 WR Camden Brown can really play
We have several good kickers..
The defense is supposed to be ahead and they are, and looked good. Hard to tell how much they affected the QB performances.
Our OL all big 6.5 ish and 330 lbs but I don't think they handled our defense all that well... Tough task because the DL is stout and athletic...
Our LB seemed only average to me but could have been the critical ingredient by being where they were supposed to be.. same for CB and S, very average looking to me.
I liked 22 RB Alston, 20 S Bridges, RB 24 Ingram.
Veterans Fromm, Shenker, and JaVarious Johnson all did very well and Tank will be good again if he can avoid getting hurt. Tank looks like a tank but standing next to Takeo Spikes he looks small..
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 8/14/22 at 2:15 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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You the lead Mod’s Jonesy’s brother or something?
Posted on 8/14/22 at 2:29 pm to jangalang
I discount 100% of what I read from JGT, but I just saw the same from that guy on On3.
Meanwhile, everyone else, including Harsin, seem to say Calzada was ok as opposed to dreadful.
I candidly don't know if Calzada was bad or just mediocre. But I hate constant sensationalism in Auburn circles, which is part of the reason we're dealing with "shock" because a guy who wasn't going to start at A&M was made into an all-SEC talent by our fans in the preseason.
Anyway, TJ dominating the day just can't be a good thing if that's in fact what happened.
Meanwhile, everyone else, including Harsin, seem to say Calzada was ok as opposed to dreadful.
I candidly don't know if Calzada was bad or just mediocre. But I hate constant sensationalism in Auburn circles, which is part of the reason we're dealing with "shock" because a guy who wasn't going to start at A&M was made into an all-SEC talent by our fans in the preseason.
Anyway, TJ dominating the day just can't be a good thing if that's in fact what happened.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 2:45 pm to Pettifogger
I don’t see how you can discount what JGT says when it turns out the PBP actually happened.
Well, not by this fan. I think the shock is moreso the guy that we may be stuck with will have 2021Finley type skills again whether it be him or Calzada
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But I hate constant sensationalism in Auburn circles, which is part of the reason we're dealing with "shock" because a guy who wasn't going to start at A&M was made into an all-SEC talent by our fans in the preseason.
Well, not by this fan. I think the shock is moreso the guy that we may be stuck with will have 2021Finley type skills again whether it be him or Calzada
Posted on 8/14/22 at 2:58 pm to jangalang
In reading the PBP last night, I just can't see how that resulted in the PBP guy's take today. I mean, it's his impressions so there's only so much I'm going to second guess, but my point is that the record last night wasn't littered with "wow what a terrible throw from Zach on that 3rd and long" nor "TJ makes another stellar throw for a 1st" etc. It seemed pretty "close" in real time. To me, anyway.
Maybe so. I think it's going to be really hard for AU people to come around on TJ winning it, even if it's all merit. Which is understandable, considering we've seen them both and one looked like an inconsistent but adequate SEC QB and the other so often looked entirely out of his element at the position.
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Well, not by this fan. I think the shock is moreso the guy that we may be stuck with will have 2021Finley type skills again whether it be him or Calzada
Maybe so. I think it's going to be really hard for AU people to come around on TJ winning it, even if it's all merit. Which is understandable, considering we've seen them both and one looked like an inconsistent but adequate SEC QB and the other so often looked entirely out of his element at the position.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 3:03 pm to jangalang
All of this speaks more on the lack of awareness from Bryan Harsin than anything else.
Bro, you literally had all off-season to fix the glaring issue Auburn had at the end of last season (the QB position).
1) You let Bo Nix get away from Auburn (say what you want, but Auburn was 6-2 before he got hurt, he was off to a great start in the MSU game, and Auburn almost beat PSU away)
2) You failed to bring in anyone that could displace TJ Finley from QB1 (Auburn was 0-5 with him as starting QB)
3) What was Bryan Harsin even doing in the transfer portal? There were more transfer QB available than anytime in college football history.
Bro, you literally had all off-season to fix the glaring issue Auburn had at the end of last season (the QB position).
1) You let Bo Nix get away from Auburn (say what you want, but Auburn was 6-2 before he got hurt, he was off to a great start in the MSU game, and Auburn almost beat PSU away)
2) You failed to bring in anyone that could displace TJ Finley from QB1 (Auburn was 0-5 with him as starting QB)
3) What was Bryan Harsin even doing in the transfer portal? There were more transfer QB available than anytime in college football history.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 3:16 pm to SemperAuburn
You guys kill me, you read a story about the kid running to catch the bus in 8th grade and you say....running QB, running QB gotta have a running QB. They take off the no contact in a live game and he is gonna put on his cape.
Lets first find a QB that can throw accurately and read defenses, then we can anoint someone the next Zeus.
Lets first find a QB that can throw accurately and read defenses, then we can anoint someone the next Zeus.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 3:33 pm to trinidadtiger
Anyone have any updates on linebacker play or safety play. That’s my worries on the defensive side
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:09 pm to CorchJay
Supposed to have been a strength
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:09 pm to TTsTowel
quote:6-3, and his horrid performance against TAMU helped to get the 0-5 streak started
1) You let Bo Nix get away from Auburn (say what you want, but Auburn was 6-2 before he got hurt
quote:then led the offense on 5 straight scoreless drives while MSU was putting up 40 unanswered points
he was off to a great start in the MSU game
quote:and would have almost surely lost to GA State at home (a game in which he completed <50% of his throws for a whopping 156 yards and added 0 net yards rushing, and later said he thought he played pretty well and didn’t understand why he was benched)
and Auburn almost beat PSU away)
quote:0-4, bad enough but he gets no blame for TAMU
2) You failed to bring in anyone that could displace TJ Finley from QB1 (Auburn was 0-5 with him as starting QB)
quote:tbh, Calzada was probably the best Harsin could get given the chatter surrounding the program at the time, some of it well-deserved
3) What was Bryan Harsin even doing in the transfer portal? There were more transfer QB available than anytime in college football history.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:20 pm to FearlessFreep
It's easy to blame the QB's but how many dropped passes did we have last year?
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:22 pm to FearlessFreep
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Freep
You have some really dumb takes.
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tbh, Calzada was probably the best Harsin could get given the chatter surrounding the program at the time, some of it well-deserved
What chatter was this?
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:22 pm to Steve Rogers
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Supposed to have been a strength
In theory or in the scrimmage?
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:28 pm to trinidadtiger
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You guys kill me, you read a story about the kid running to catch the bus in 8th grade and you say....running QB, running QB gotta have a running QB. They take off the no contact in a live game and he is gonna put on his cape.
That’s all a big leap if you’re referring to my position. I just said I would love to have a mobile QB that could run again and if Harsin wants to see Ashford live than he has two easy games to do that in. If it helps prove whether Ashford can help us win the most or not then Harsin should do it.
Stop being so over dramatic
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:28 pm to CorchJay
Scrimmage. Watch Auburn247 review on scrimmage by several different beat writers.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 4:42 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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That’s all a big leap if you’re referring to my position. I just said I would love to have a mobile QB that could run again and if Harsin wants to see Ashford live than he has two easy games to do that in. If it helps prove whether Ashford can help us win the most or not then Harsin should do it. Stop being so over dramatic
I believe I read last week he was en route from Trinidad to Trobago. His perspective is literally out of this world.
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