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re: Durkin as HC: What do you think his ceiling is?
Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:22 pm to MrAUTigers
Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:22 pm to MrAUTigers
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IF he is hired and isn't successful, we will hire somebody else
Yeah, let's just hire a guy who has failed as a head coach already because we can always hire someone else in 3 years, super awesome reasoning.
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:29 pm to auyushu
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Yeah, let's just hire a guy who has failed as a head coach
At a place where every HC has failed, except one, since 1986. Jesus H..
"A HC failed somewhere so he won't succeed anywhere". That is ignorant as hell. And you want to talk about "reasoning"?
This post was edited on 11/28/25 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:36 pm to MrAUTigers
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HC failed somewhere so he won't succeed anywhere". That is ignorant as hell. And you want to talk about "reasoning
Give me a list of coaches that had a losing record at their first college head coaching job, got fired, and then went on to have successful college careers as a head coach. I'll wait....
The list will probably be difficult to find, but it'll be very short.There is nothing ignorant about it, stats back up thinking he will fail. Ignorance is thinking that he'll suddenly succeed, for no reason or basis whatsoever.
This post was edited on 11/28/25 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:38 pm to AUveritas
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Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:45 pm to auyushu
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Give me a list of coaches that had a losing record at their first college head coaching job, got fired, and then went on to have successful college careers as a head coach. I'll wait....
DJ went 10-15, which is about as good as any HC they have had, except one, the last fourty years. He wasn't fired because of poor coaching. He was fired because a strength and conditioning coach ran a kid to his death.
We will see if he is a good HC IF he is the one hired. I do know if the fanbase doesn't get behind whoever is hired, that HC will fail.
ETA and as far as a losing HC that got fired..........Bill Belichick went 36-44, with one winning season, at Cleveland.......his first HC job.
This post was edited on 11/28/25 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:51 pm to MrAUTigers
I thought I reminded you to get back to your podcast, Mike. Get on now. Cohen is looking for his lap dog.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:53 pm to NewYrkTiger
frick off.
I am not going to act like a jilted schoolgirl because Auburn doesn't go out and hire some of the unrealistic names thrown out. DJ will get another huge job interview tomorrow. How about waiting and see how it goes?
I am not going to act like a jilted schoolgirl because Auburn doesn't go out and hire some of the unrealistic names thrown out. DJ will get another huge job interview tomorrow. How about waiting and see how it goes?
Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:55 pm to MrAUTigers
At least you implicitly admit you are and what your motive is. Smoking you out is all I really wanted.
Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:55 pm to MrAUTigers
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At a place where every HC has failed, except one, since 1986. Jesus H.. "A HC failed somewhere so he won't succeed anywhere". That is ignorant as hell. And you want to talk about "reasoning"?
I heard Cignetti say he didn't care to leave James Madison but conference exansion forced him to examine his career.
He said he saw Indiana and knew he could build his program. He saw a state school in the P4 and knew that was more than enough.
Maryland fits that criteria. Durkin's tenure should be weighed accordingly. If it can be done in Indiana
Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:57 pm to NewYrkTiger
I don't give a frick who Auburn hire. I just want them to win. Until they get that opportunity, nobody knows if they will be successful or not.
Everybody bitching about losing Sumrall. Apparently UF is giving him $10M a year. Should we offer $10.5M for him?
Everybody bitching about losing Sumrall. Apparently UF is giving him $10M a year. Should we offer $10.5M for him?
Posted on 11/29/25 at 12:09 am to MrAUTigers
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Everybody bitching about losing Sumrall. Apparen
You apparently struggle reading the thread. Nobody is bitching about not hiring Sumrall, we are bitching about potentially hiring Durkin. Hiring someone that has a 90% chance of failing after we've just dealt with Harsin and Freeze is idiocy.
And you name me a pro head coach when I ask about giving me an example of a college head coach that went from a losing record, being fired to being successful?
Pro coaches don't control their rosters, plenty have sucked then went on to success simply due to lack of talent the first time around. It's not the same for college coaches. So you literally can't give an example of someone like Durkin being successful, and I'm the one being ignorant?
Posted on 11/29/25 at 12:15 am to MrAUTigers
It’s not my money. So in and of itself, I don’t care. Like you said, I just want Auburn to win. (I really should point out that it kind of is my money, and all our money, in that we shell out our dollars to support the program. So I want as much as possible applied toward winning. Period.)
So IF Sumrall is our guy (and there have been about 100 reports in the last 2 weeks suggesting Sumrall is our guy), then yes. Pay $10m or $100m. Just get him. Period.
Now, there is a chance Sumrall isn’t the right guy for the job. We won’t know that for 3-4 years. But you don’t put a cap on it. You do your due diligence and decide who you believe the right guy is, then you go get him.
Might Sumrall fail at Auburn (or Florida, or any other SEC school)? Yes! But money shouldn’t be the issue.
And really, that’s what it’s all about. Durkin was the easy, safe, and relatively inexpensive choice for the PTB. Ok, fine. But don’t tell me they’re moving heaven and earth to win. They’re not.
And I’ll also concede that Durkin might turn out to be a home run hire (probably not, but hey, you never know). If so, it was a lucky break. Not due to the PTB doing anything and everything to win.
So IF Sumrall is our guy (and there have been about 100 reports in the last 2 weeks suggesting Sumrall is our guy), then yes. Pay $10m or $100m. Just get him. Period.
Now, there is a chance Sumrall isn’t the right guy for the job. We won’t know that for 3-4 years. But you don’t put a cap on it. You do your due diligence and decide who you believe the right guy is, then you go get him.
Might Sumrall fail at Auburn (or Florida, or any other SEC school)? Yes! But money shouldn’t be the issue.
And really, that’s what it’s all about. Durkin was the easy, safe, and relatively inexpensive choice for the PTB. Ok, fine. But don’t tell me they’re moving heaven and earth to win. They’re not.
And I’ll also concede that Durkin might turn out to be a home run hire (probably not, but hey, you never know). If so, it was a lucky break. Not due to the PTB doing anything and everything to win.
This post was edited on 11/29/25 at 12:20 am
Posted on 11/29/25 at 12:18 am to auyushu
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I ask about giving me an example of a college head coach that went from a losing record, being fired to being successful?
Mario Cristobal
His first HC job was FIU. In 6 seasons he had a .365 winning percentage. LOSER, right? No way he can be successful, right?
Jimmy Johnson
he was 29-25-3 before going to The U.
This post was edited on 11/29/25 at 12:29 am
Posted on 11/29/25 at 12:31 am to MrAUTigers
I mean Cristobal led FIU to some of their best seasons ever though.
Posted on 11/29/25 at 12:45 am to MrAUTigers
Jimmy Johnson not only didn't have a losing record, he wasn't even fired, he got hired at Miami straight from his first job, he was successful at Okie State.
Mario on the other hand is a good example. But in Mario's case he had led FIU to a couple of their best seasons ever before being fired, and then learned under one of the best coaches of all time in Saban, Durkin has had Freeze and Jimbo Fisher when he had given up mentoring him, they are not the same.
Like I said, it's not impossible, a couple other examples exist beyond Cristobal, but the chances are almost nil. When you throw in the scandal plagued past on top of the poor coaching his first time around it's not something we should even be considering, particularly when a majority of the fanbase was pissed off for the same reason when we hired Freeze. Hell, I know a not insignificant number of Auburn grads that were pissed we hired him as DC because of that scandal.
If you start off with 70% of the fans hating the hire, the chances of success are extremely low. And coaches with Durkin's type of background already have a statistically small chance to succeed to begin with.
Mario on the other hand is a good example. But in Mario's case he had led FIU to a couple of their best seasons ever before being fired, and then learned under one of the best coaches of all time in Saban, Durkin has had Freeze and Jimbo Fisher when he had given up mentoring him, they are not the same.
Like I said, it's not impossible, a couple other examples exist beyond Cristobal, but the chances are almost nil. When you throw in the scandal plagued past on top of the poor coaching his first time around it's not something we should even be considering, particularly when a majority of the fanbase was pissed off for the same reason when we hired Freeze. Hell, I know a not insignificant number of Auburn grads that were pissed we hired him as DC because of that scandal.
If you start off with 70% of the fans hating the hire, the chances of success are extremely low. And coaches with Durkin's type of background already have a statistically small chance to succeed to begin with.
This post was edited on 11/29/25 at 12:47 am
Posted on 11/29/25 at 12:52 am to auyushu
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And coaches with Durkin's type of background already have a statistically small chance to succeed to begin with.
That can be said for many G5 HC's that were successful before they made the jump. Some of the very hottest names have fallen flat on their faces. There aren't many sure-things when it comes to HC's. That is why I say "wait and see" no matter who we hire. I am not going to fly into a tizzy until whoever we hire shows he can't get the job done.
Posted on 11/29/25 at 6:46 am to AUveritas
8 wins next year with our “loaded” roster will be the best record that Durkin will have. We will be back in a coaching search in 3 years. Cohen must be fired ASAP.
Posted on 11/29/25 at 7:06 am to AUIH1
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8 wins next year with our “loaded” roster will be the best record that Durkin
Have you seen our schedule next year bro? Dumpkin aint winning 8.
We will have to play over our heads to go to a bowl game. Again
Man this coaching rotation is fun. So glad we entered it. We will be beating UGA and Bama consistently very soon.
Posted on 11/29/25 at 7:11 am to LanierSpots
Just for measure, here is the 2026 schedule
Baylor in the GA Dome
at Home
vs Southern Miss
vs Jacksonville state
vs LSU
vs Florida
vs Arkansas
vs Vanderbilt
Away
Alabama
UGA
Tennessee
Ole Miss
Miss St
How many we gon win?
Baylor in the GA Dome
at Home
vs Southern Miss
vs Jacksonville state
vs LSU
vs Florida
vs Arkansas
vs Vanderbilt
Away
Alabama
UGA
Tennessee
Ole Miss
Miss St
How many we gon win?
Posted on 11/29/25 at 7:55 am to LanierSpots
We had to enter the coaching search. You still want Hugh coaching this team?
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