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Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:40 am to
Posted by AUEE13
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:40 am to
Am I the only one thinking that Schmedding is immediately promoted if Mason leaves for whatever reason? I don't see Harsin going after someone outside the program with Schmedding on staff. Not saying I agree with it, but just seems like the natural move.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
19206 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:42 am to
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22.1 PPG compared to 26.7 PPG

19.5 in 2019. 24.1 in 2010. 24.7 in 2013. For reference



Let's revisit these stats after Mason only rushes 3 against Bryce Young, and he has all day to make a sandwich and take a nap.
Posted by TemperdTiger
Montgomery, AL
Member since Oct 2013
1998 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:45 am to
Man there have been several games this year that without the defense we had we would have been totally out of the game. Our offense has been more the problem this year. I still think having anything to do with getting rid of Mason this year is not smart. Look at A&M with their only scores being FGs other than a pick 6. This last game was on coaching decisions on Defense, head coach decisions, Special teams, and offensive last half of 2nd quarter+ decisions. You would be correct being upset with him in that game since he went to 3 man fronts and taking the pressure off the throw heavy QB. Like in what world is that the correct thing to do, and we've mentioned that a few times this year, but we don't necessarily have all the best to do that kind of rush on a consistent basis, especially with Papoe being constantly out.

We should have been at 35 before the half--they started looking lazy then.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:52 am to
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Look at A&M with their only scores being FGs other than a pick 6


A&M's offense looked good against Bama. Otherwise, they have not. So holding a mediocre offense to field goals is not a good talking point for keeping Mason.

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We should have been at 35 before the half


I already said IMO Bobo should be let go also.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
19206 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:56 am to
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I for one can say his scheme irritates me more than his results so far.


This is why he needs to be let go. His scheme is set up for failure, and he doesn't know how to adjust.
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:08 am to
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I for one can say his scheme irritates me more than his results so far.



This, and I am pretty sure Mason's D in 3 games so far has allowed 3 QBs to have a completion % of over 70%.

That more than likely will be 4 come Alabama game time.

THis is what frustrates me.

No real deception or rush sequences that make the QB think.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47316 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:26 am to
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Let's revisit these stats after Mason only rushes 3 against Bryce Young, and he has all day to make a sandwich and take a nap.

He won’t just rush three.

You understand that the playbook against Leach is to rush three correct? Now I do agree that he should’ve adjusted and he didn’t but it’s not like it was some outlandish thing to do. And it’s not a regular thing he does.

My problem with both coordinators in the last game was the lack of switching things up. But they’ve both done a good job of adjusting before that game. I don’t know why we didn’t in this one.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:30 am to
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You would be correct being upset with him in that game since he went to 3 man fronts and taking the pressure off the throw heavy QB. Like in what world is that the correct thing to do, and we've mentioned that a few times this year, but we don't necessarily have all the best to do that kind of rush on a consistent basis, especially with Papoe being constantly out.

That’s the playbook on Leach’s offense. He likes doing short passes instead of runs. Doesn’t throw deep a lot which means pass rush doesn’t have time to get home. So instead of rushing, you put an extra guy on coverage so your guys aren’t on islands in open space (what Leach wants)

Like i said in my last post though, you have to adjust when it’s not working and it became clear it wasn’t working. Leach adjusted. Mason didn’t.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 10:31 am
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
18488 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:32 am to
I know some here might not believe it, but there’s a decent chance that Mason might get offered an HC gig at a G5 school at season’s end.

Lot of openings this year, and it seems like he’d like another shot. I suppose something similar could occur with Bobo as well.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
19890 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:34 am to
Thought Mason said he wanted to get back to the NFL. Why would a college team invest in a coach looking to go to the NFL.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
18488 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:39 am to
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Thought Mason said he wanted to get back to the NFL. Why would a college team invest in a coach looking to go to the NFL.
I wasn’t aware of this, seeing as how he’s been s college coach for 25 years out of his 28 year career
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
19206 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:00 am to
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I know some here might not believe it, but there’s a decent chance that Mason might get offered an HC gig at a G5 school at season’s end.

Lot of openings this year, and it seems like he’d like another shot. I suppose something similar could occur with Bobo as well.





This is the best case scenario. Both leave for HC gigs, Auburn doesn't have to pay them buyouts, and Harsin can have another opportunity to hire some actual good coordinators.
Posted by TemperdTiger
Montgomery, AL
Member since Oct 2013
1998 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:02 am to
I do agree that Harsin basically had to panic hire a bunch at the worse time to try to hire, but I dunno where we would go, who would want to come.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
12237 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:07 am to
We just went a stretch of 8 quarters without giving up a touchdown. Mason is fine. We just have zero talent upfront on defense. Talk of firing a guy one year in while simultaneously bitching about recruiting is not the right combination. One negates the other. Let's see how our silent treatment recruiting strategy goes before we ditch the DC. These guys going to have their first in-home visits in December.

We had a bad 2nd half but I'm not willing to give up on Mason yet. Until Saturday, I thought we were finally "geting" his zone approach.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30516 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:18 am to
Yep Mason will be back. They abysmal recruiting on the defensive line the past couple years hurts
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
4732 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:35 am to
Masons scheme is soft. Give me Muschamp or give me death.

I have faith (because I don't have any other option right now) that the same Harsin that quickly saw Corn wasn't working and made the change before it got worse will also see that Mason isn't working and makes the change before it gets worse.
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
4732 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:35 am to
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Yep Mason will be back. They abysmal recruiting on the defensive line the past couple years hurts
We got a 5 star riding the bench this year because he doesn't fit Masons scheme.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
19890 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:57 am to
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abysmal recruiting on the defensive line the past couple years hurts


Where does this come from?

Butler
Burks
Foster-Allen
Charles Moore *
Wright
Handy
Hardy
Hall
Wooden

Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30516 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 12:02 pm to
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Butler
Burks
Foster-Allen
Charles Moore *
Wright
Handy
Hardy


Who?
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
19890 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 12:09 pm to
i guess you could add Lee Hunter and Robinson in as old staff recruits.

yeah that old dirty dog Rodney Garner never could recruit or develop talent. He just left us with "abysmal talent"
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