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re: Coordinator’s/Position Coaches
Posted on 12/8/22 at 7:25 pm to jangalang
Posted on 12/8/22 at 7:25 pm to jangalang
quote:My issue with this is.. Kelly was a bad DC at FSU. McGriff was a bad DC at Ole Miss. So, both of our Co-DC's are both guys who have struggled with that job. Maybe working together helps take some stuff on their plate and allows them to be better.. but I get nervous depending on 2 guys to do a job they've already failed at.
And his fellow co-DC can help with game management.
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 7:25 pm to AUFan2015
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Get some glasses Grandpa not my fault you can't see my username that's listed 3 different times
Posted on 12/8/22 at 7:31 pm to jangalang
Posted on 12/8/22 at 7:37 pm to AUFan2015
Posted on 12/8/22 at 7:44 pm to jt33
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Kelly was a bad DC at FSU.
People keep saying this and I have to admit I did not watch much of FSU from 2014-2017 so I can’t adamantly defend him but looking at the defensive stats those years:
Efficiency:
2014 - 42nd
2015 - 22nd
2016 - 12th
2017 - 18th
Scoring:
2014 - 50th
2015 - 9th
2016 - 45th
2017 - 29th
What was so bad about his defenses?
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 12/8/22 at 7:48 pm to Weagle25
What was bad is his team out talented every team on the schedule and he put out average defenses in a weak conference.
But at the end of the day we need players. DL and LB roster is in a very bad spot. Same at OL and QB on the other side. Nothing is gonna look good until we get good players and depth. Harsin destroyed our roster
But at the end of the day we need players. DL and LB roster is in a very bad spot. Same at OL and QB on the other side. Nothing is gonna look good until we get good players and depth. Harsin destroyed our roster
Posted on 12/8/22 at 7:50 pm to CorchJay
I mean 12th and 18th in efficiency isn’t average
At worst, I’d say he was an average DC if you use that argument of out talenting everyone
At worst, I’d say he was an average DC if you use that argument of out talenting everyone
Posted on 12/8/22 at 7:51 pm to Weagle25
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What was so bad about his defenses?
Look what he inherited… their defense under Pruitt (and to a lesser extent Stoops) was elite… Kelly took a well oiled machine and was mediocre… all while playing mediocre competition.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:00 pm to lowspark12
FSU fans are still traumatized by 3rd and Kelly. One of my close friends is an FSU fan and we we're in a lot of recruiting battles with them at the time, so we talked a lot of FSU football and I watched a lot of their games. They loved him as LB coach, but as a DC their team took a clear step back when you watched them play.
This explains it better.They regressed in pretty much every area under him and the trend shows he wasn't close to turning it around.
This explains it better.They regressed in pretty much every area under him and the trend shows he wasn't close to turning it around.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:11 pm to jt33
Yeah…. I went back and looked at the numbers… FSU was top 5 in total defense nationally the three years before Kelly… then had a dramatic drop in 2014 and never got back to that level.
In fairness, I’d be fine with Kelly as DC… but he was a significant step behind Pruitt and Stoops.
In fairness, I’d be fine with Kelly as DC… but he was a significant step behind Pruitt and Stoops.
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:42 pm to lowspark12
Arnett or bust
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:02 pm to jt33
Ya Kelly might be worse than TWill
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:31 pm to blzr
Hoke’s DC guess is Arnett, Kelly, Kiffin, or Mason.
Whatever that’s worth
Whatever that’s worth
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:33 pm to TheJones
So he's narrowed it down from a human being?
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:38 pm to TheJones
Always count on Hoke
To throw several names out and then crosses fingers that it is one of those.
To throw several names out and then crosses fingers that it is one of those.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:02 pm to TheJones
quote:Which is funny.. because either him or KN just said yesterday that since they heard that first initial news about Freeze asking about Mason they haven't heard his name at all lol.
Hoke’s DC guess is Arnett, Kelly, Kiffin, or Mason.
Mason was in town seeing one of our recruits.. its my guess he was asking about Mason to find out what he was recruiting against.
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:15 pm to jt33
Hoke doesn’t know shite, it’s sad he’s paid for basically being a fake auburn board insider
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:16 pm to blzr
How much would you guess he takes home doing that?
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:18 pm to Poker Dough
I mean he might be poorer than corch still. But still, sad
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:19 pm to Poker Dough
More than any of us do for posting on here, but offering the same level insight and a lot less fun.
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