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Posted on 10/4/25 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by IAmNERD
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 4:25 pm to
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Coaches do not give a shite about staying at their alma mater.

I can guarantee you Clark Lea does. Kirby does as well.

If you've ever heard Lea talk about Vandy you would see he isnt voluntarily leaving.

Hell, we couldnt money whip Kiffin over a PowerPoint presentation by his daughter.
Posted by The_SwAUggford
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 4:26 pm to
That would be the best coaching staff we've had since? Dye? Tuberville?
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 4:29 pm to
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I can guarantee you Clark Lea does. Kirby does as well.
If Lea keeps this up, he will not be at Vandy next season. Bet the house on that. He's about to get offered life changing money.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 4:30 pm to
Clark Lea has seen 100% of his success coaching one QB.

He is the one coach that seems to be part of the calculus.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23567 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 4:30 pm to
What makes you think a school.loke Vandy cant pony up? Do you even know what he makes now?
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23567 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 4:32 pm to
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Clark Lea has seen 100% of his success coaching one QB.

Huh? Vandy turned around when Pavia, Kill and Beck came to town.
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He is the one coach that seems to be part of the calculus.

I must be confused on what you're saying because Kill and Beck are the ones who came to JHS stadium without Lea and whipped Auburn's arse then went to Vandy where Lea was struggling big time.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 4:36 pm to
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There are a lot of stars until theyre no longer. For all I know he will be reading Offense for Dummies by the time he gets her


And if he doesn't work out we are out a couple years with no huge loss financially. If we hire Dabo we are giving him a contract similar to Lincoln Riley or Kelly for 10 years, and we are completely fricked for a decade if he doesn't work out.

And given that Dabo has been declining steadily at Clemson and has never had an elite season without elite coordinators and a superstar QB, the odds are far more likely he would bust badly.

I honestly can't think of a single big name coach moving like that which has worked out well. Miami with Cristobal is the closest, and he's really just been solid in mediocre ACC.

Pretty much all of the top coaches in cfb came up as OC or DC, or they came up from smaller schools to bigger ones (a lot fewer of these than OC or DC). A head coach making a lateral move is usually a really bad hire or sign.

This post was edited on 10/4/25 at 4:38 pm
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14035 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 4:40 pm to
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What makes you think a school.loke Vandy cant pony up? Do you even know what he makes now?
Are you serious? Vandy shut down it's athletic department a long time ago. Vandy is, and always will be, a stepping stone job for coaches. If Vandy had the ability to counter an offer from a big time program, they still wouldn't. Athletics is not that important to that school as it is at a whole lot of other places. They don't have very much fan support, and Texas has high schools with bigger stadiums.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14035 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 4:43 pm to
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That would be the best coaching staff we've had since? Dye? Tuberville?
It would be top 3, for certain. Tubs with Chizik as DC was probably the best staff in the last 20+ years.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23567 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 4:46 pm to
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and Texas has high schools with bigger stadiums.

You're just making shite up now. There isnt a HS stadium in TX that has 40k+. Vandy has a shite load of money. Of course they arent gonna throw it around when they ar the worst team in the P4. They arent now. And they have one of their own as the head guy. They dont have to report any financial info. They just put a lot of money into upgrading facilities. They arent letting their guy go right when they get good.
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/4/25 at 4:49 pm to
I'm worried that the PTB, who seem to have beating the Gumps as their #1 resume requirement, will jump at Lea, especially if he wins today.

I'm not sold on him. Who knows how much of his success is due to Pavia and/or Tim Beck and Jerry Krill? I wouldn't be thrilled with that hire right now.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14035 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 4:56 pm to
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You're just making shite up now. There isnt a HS stadium in TX that has 40k+.
You got me. Vandy's stadium is twice as big as a Texas HS stadium. 40000 seats and opposing fans often outnumber the home fans.

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They arent letting their guy go right when they get good.
Every coach Vandy ever had that was decent, left for much greener pastures. Remind me again, where was the current Penn State coach before he got that job?
Posted by Beachbum87
Niceville, FL
Member since Oct 2022
4078 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 4:56 pm to
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Kirby does as well.


Terrible example. Georgia is an elite destination.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
9627 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 5:00 pm to
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Who knows how much of his success is due to Pavia and/or Tim Beck and Jerry Krill? I wouldn't be thrilled with that hire right now.


Given that his record was 9-27 in his three years without them at Vandy, all signs point to most of his success being due to them. Their offense is inventive and well run, their defense is mediocre. Lea would be an extremely risky hire.

Pretty much anyone who has had most of their success with one transfer QB, particularly a covid transfer QB, is pretty suspect as a hire. See GA Tech's head coach as another one in this category.
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9707 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 5:01 pm to
We will trot Rhett Lashee out and abort 10 more years of Auburn football
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49780 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 5:01 pm to
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Huh? Vandy turned around when Pavia, Kill and Beck came to town

There is nothing confusing about this part of the post. All of Lea's success has come with Pavia.

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I must be confused on what you're saying
On this line I meant to say coach Kill
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23567 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 5:01 pm to
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I'm not sold on him. Who knows how much of his success is due to Pavia and/or Tim Beck and Jerry Krill?

That was my entire original point.

Lea was struggling at Vandy until the New Mexico St gang came in.

But now that they have them there, they arent letting them walk cheap.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14035 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 5:02 pm to
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I'm worried that the PTB, who seem to have beating the Gumps as their #1 resume requirement, will jump at Lea, especially if he wins today.

I'm not sold on him. Who knows how much of his success is due to Pavia and/or Tim Beck and Jerry Krill? I wouldn't be thrilled with that hire right now.
For arguments sake, assume Freeze doesn't make it, and is fired. Who out there is above Lea at this point? Someone we could actually get. All the good ones that are at our level of program, have massive buyouts.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49780 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 5:03 pm to
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auyushu
Okay well invite Lashlee then
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
3504 posts
Posted on 10/4/25 at 5:08 pm to
I wouldn't fire Freeze without a guaranteed plan already in place. If Lea is our only option, I'd rather just stick with Freeze. I'm not crazy about Durkin but even he'd be a better option imo.
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