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Posted on 9/28/25 at 6:02 pm to
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 9/28/25 at 6:02 pm to
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Who we getting in the hot tub with this time?

I dont love Auburn enough to fantasize getting into hot tubs with other men.

Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/28/25 at 6:08 pm to
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I dont love Auburn enough to fantasize getting into hot tubs with other men.


I thought it was how we choose our coaches.

We got Harsin that way, and looked how that worked out.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
51189 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 6:12 pm to
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And it threw their program into absolute chaos. And now they look to be better than Auburn in the same time frame.
There is no magic line between 3 years or 4 years and there never has been. Giving 4 years to show an abundance of support is redundant after doing so already while financing the roster. People can see there is no improvement even though the team is stacked with skill. Losses are losses and offense is still running up hill in mud.

Programs need to hire and fire based on their own interests and not worry about offending 789, groose drank wine and the moms worried about public perception. John Cohen fired Moorhead after 2 years to get Leach he can make that call again.
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
3811 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 6:14 pm to
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John Cohen did exactly this with Moorhead. Stop lying.


I never said he didn’t. But he didn’t do it with Arnet next which is what was implied. There was a successful coach in between.

Also, are you all striving to be MSU? Is this the best example you’ve got of what I’m told is so common?
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
51189 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 6:24 pm to
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I never said he didn’t. But he didn’t do it with Arnet next which is what was implied. There was a successful coach in between.

I never implied it was consecutive. You are bothering yourself with irrelevant distinctions.
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Also, are you all striving to be MSU? Is this the best example you’ve got of what I’m told is so common?

Regardless of whether their AD is now our AD it is obvious we should seek common sense in these discussions. You claim we look much improved but the stats do not show it. The wins are not there. Three years is more than enough time for a coach that has a dismal coaching record.

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This post was edited on 9/28/25 at 6:39 pm
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23824 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 6:25 pm to
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Brent Venebles almost took the job but didn’t because multiple people he was close to reached out to him to warn him to not take the Auburn job because AU will literally fire you in no time if you aren’t winning titles.


Well that's completely dishonest. He very pucly called out Auburn's "alignment". Meaning he didn't feel that everyone at Auburn was pulling in the same direction with regards to the Board of Trustees, the AD, the fans and the boosters. Basically, he didn't know who the HC would answer to.
Posted by MexicanBurtReynolds
Fairhope, AL
Member since Feb 2010
432 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 6:27 pm to
As much as I hate losing, my guilty pleasure is the Sunday in-fighting by AU fans. It's glorious.

Hugh sucks, no debate. One dude is going out of his way to defend him is like car wreck must watch/read.

This is 2012 bad. When the D gives up (they will), you will see real panic.

Time to fire everyone from the AD all the way down to the part time lady who scrubs toilets in the athletic department.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20558 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 6:30 pm to
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part time lady who scrubs toilets in the athletic department


She’s doing the job.

No need to fire her.

Does she know anything about football?
Maybe she could run the offense.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23824 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 6:33 pm to
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Great. Then you should be able to provide numerous examples of schools firing two consecutive coaches, giving each of them less than 3 full seasons.

The list IS short because they were historically bad coaches.

Its Harsin, Chad Morris and Joe Moorhead.

Are you going to argue that any of those dudes were gonna turn their respective programs around and compete for SEC titles? Because I would love to hear that logic.
Posted by MexicanBurtReynolds
Fairhope, AL
Member since Feb 2010
432 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 6:40 pm to
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She’s doing the job.

No need to fire her.

Does she know anything about football?
Maybe she could run the offense.


Complete oil change. Would not be pissed if kept Durkin, just not as head man.

How's the swing? Got sim in garage, but hot as hell, even in Huntsville.

The only problem for me with AU is you have to watch to 0:00. I asked my son, you sure you want to go there?
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4558 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 6:44 pm to
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The list IS short because they were historically bad coaches.



Correct. The reason why the list is so short isn't because its a preposterous idea, its because even guys like Billy Napier (who everyone knows is a bad coach) have managed to scrape together an 8-5 or 7-6 season, which buys them an extra year and delays their inevitable firing.

It doesn't even look like Freeze will be able to do that.

Billy Napier would have been canned last season without getting through his 3rd season had he not won 8 games. And also importantly: Napier squeaking out 8 wins didn't do frick all to "right the ship". He is back to being on pace to hit the unemployment line less than a year later.

Freeze is literally in the same boat as Napier was in. Its win ~8 games or he is rightfully gone.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30882 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 6:47 pm to
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Freeze is literally in the same boat as Napier was in. It’s win ~8 games or he is rightfully gone.

He’s not getting 8 wins.

With the NIL era in place I would get the best play caller coach there is, like the NFL does.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20558 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 7:23 pm to
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How's the swing? Got sim in garage, but hot as hell, even in Huntsville.


I found a video of Hugh swinging.
No I’m even madder.

That swing is awful.

My swing is not Adam Scott, but I am not over the top like Freeze.

Look online for videos of his swing.
It’s putrid. If he’s a 7.6 index, he must be the best putter in the world.

At this point, I’d stay away from High as a partner because I think he has a vanity handicap.

I’m a 10, but Hugh’s swing don’t scare me. It is ugly.
Posted by pdfield34
Member since Aug 2022
615 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 7:57 pm to
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That swing is awful.


I have supported the hire, but after I saw his swing, I had at least some doubts.

Inexcusable to have that much money and love golf that much and have that poor of swing.

Obviously can't be bothered with technicalities.
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
3811 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 8:40 pm to
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The list IS short because they were historically bad coaches.

Its Harsin, Chad Morris and Joe Moorhead.


So never one school firing two straight coaches after 2 and 3 seasons, respectively? So not ever? So Auburn would be doing that for the first time ever?

Do you not see how bad this looks?

State fired Moorhead and then found Leach… he did well.

Arky fired Morris and then gave Pittman six seasons to try to clean it up… he mostly failed, but they knew after pulling the trigger on Chad Morris they had to give Pittman sufficient time.

Firing Harsin in his 2nd season and then immediately firing his replacement in his 3rd season is program suicide.
This post was edited on 9/28/25 at 8:43 pm
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20558 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 8:46 pm to
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but after I saw his swing, I had at least some doubts. Inexcusable to have that much money and love golf that much and have that poor of swing.


That man has a vanity handicap.

I know the type.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45140 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 8:47 pm to
We arent firing Freeze. This is wasting all of your time
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34567 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 8:49 pm to
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We arent firing Freeze. This is wasting all of your time


Posted by smuphy72
Bham
Member since Nov 2009
4295 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 8:58 pm to
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We arent firing Freeze. This is wasting all of your time


We may not fire him, but I think it is unlikely he is the HC next season.

(barring drastic changes) his season will be determined by the UGA game.

Nothing groundbreaking but there are at least conversations already happening about what we do from here and who the Coaching Targets could be.

Personally I'd take Ryan Silverfield, Sumrall, or Stein Oregon's OC and keep DJD.
This post was edited on 9/28/25 at 9:01 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
51189 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 9:01 pm to
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Firing Harsin in his 2nd season and then immediately firing his replacement in his 3rd season is program suicide.

I think you are being hysterical. Everything is earned, not given. Recruiting is already back in the dumps. Why in the world does he need a 4th season. Current players like Cam can sniff a lame duck.

Nobody is going to say we didnt give Freeze a chance.
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