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Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:35 am to greygoose
It started early with Gus too, then inexplicably continued with Harsin and company.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:48 am to greygoose
Hugh freeze is going to be some awful times if so.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:55 am to TemperdTiger
Excerpt from an Athletic article on the differences of Alabama and Auburn recruiting the state.
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How would you describe the way Auburn recruits your players??
Coach 2: I gotta be careful because I don’t want to get hung out here, but Bryan Harsin hasn’t been to our school. He’s never been here. That’s been a surprise. They’ve got a lot of outstanding recruiters on their staff, though. I think that (Harsin) has put together a good staff. But I don’t know the head coach there.
Coach 3: I think they do a great job. With us being close, it allows them to see them a lot too. I think they do a really good job, and I think it’ll continue because our kids know most of the coaches that are there.
Coach 6: (Offensive line coach) Will Friend does an excellent job. (Running backs coach) Carnell Williams is good. They’ve got a lot of outstanding young coaches. I think they’re going to do well, but I don’t know their head coach at all. Nick Saban comes to our school every year — every year he makes a trip to our school, whether he’s recruiting a guy or not.
Coach 1: Honestly, they do a poor job in recruiting. I’ve never met the man (Harsin) in person. I do want to meet the guy because I think a lot of my kids could play at Auburn. But just as a rule, they just haven’t done a very good job recruiting our kids.
Coach 4: I took a player down there that had some good offers, and I don’t think they realized who he was. But I’ll tell you something cool about Harsin, which is probably not the popular thing right now. I talked to that joker for about 45 minutes on the phone. That’s not something you see coaches in Division I doing. You don’t see any head coaches doing that really. I thought that was really cool. I thought he did a good job.
What’s the biggest difference between Alabama’s recruiters and Auburn’s??
Coach 1: Boy, you’re going to get me in trouble. The biggest difference I guess between Alabama and Auburn is every time there’s a permissible time for Alabama to be out recruiting, they’re out recruiting. Every permissible time. And I don’t know that Auburn is doing that right now.
Coach 5: (Auburn) should be more aggressive at my school.
Coach 6: Alabama is constantly evaluating kids. They’re always a year ahead. They’re recruiting a year ahead. It’s amazing.
Coach 2: I don’t think there’s a lot of difference. I think all of them are good recruiters. I think they’re good guys. I think Alabama’s becoming more of a national brand, they recruit nationally. Auburn’s trying to recruit the Southeast. I think that Alabama is going to get kids from everywhere. I think they stretch all the way from the East Coast to the West Coast. Because everybody wants to play where they have a chance to win a national championship. I think that Alabama does a great job. They’re gonna go after those four- or five-star kids. And then, you know, of course, Saban does his due diligence. If there’s a three-star and he’s really, really good, he’ll go after those guys. He does a really good job of not missing too many times on kids.
Coach 3: The glaring thing is to me is recruiting is the lifeblood of your program, and I think that knowing the importance of recruiting in the SEC and knowing how it works, and I think that I just think there’s a stark difference between Alabama and Auburn. You have to know the backroads and know how to get into places. Knowledge of the SEC and how the recruiting world is is more important now than ever.
Coach 4: At the end of the day, I think Alabama has just, you know, they just stay ahead of the curve on everything. And not just in recruiting. In everything. The consistency is amazing to me. They’re a machine.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:59 am to jangalang
Our only mistake was not firing him for cause last winter. Cause he sucks at his job. No reason to make up lies. Treat it like any other job and base it on performance.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:00 am to AUCE05
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Our only mistake was not firing him for cause last winter.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:01 am to Poker Dough
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If he came to Auburn he'd have $10 million to use already.
If he gets the boosters behind him (NIL) and lands some solid coordinators, the sky's the limit. If one of those things doesn't fall into place, then it's going to go poorly, but that's the case for every coach.
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Our only mistake was not firing him for cause last winter.
Can you fire a coach "for cause" strictly based on performance (and not the whole staffer rumor/nonsense)? If so, we should have.
It wasn't a super popular opinion last year but when we lost both coordinators, had a massive number of transfers out of the program, and our recruiting was crap it was clear his tenure was over.
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 10:08 am
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:11 am to ALhunter
It's a contract. You can negotiate whatever you want. But I will admit Green was not qualified for this job and put us in a bad spot.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:20 am to AUCE05
quote:For "cause"? I don't think you and Jang know what that term means. They could have fired him, and paid off his contract, but "for cause" means wrong doing, and usually means you don't have to honor the contract. If you are referring to the internet sex scandal rumor, that's a great way to end up paying way over the amount of the contract. If an employer fires someone "for cause", they had better have irrefutable evidence to support that.
Our only mistake was not firing him for cause last winter. Cause he sucks at his job. No reason to make up lies. Treat it like any other job and base it on performance.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:26 am to ALhunter
quote:Imagine the hit to Auburn's reputation if they fired a 1st year coach for going 6-7, beating LSU at home for the 1st time in forever, and leading Alabama in the Iron Bowl with seconds left in the game.
Can you fire a coach "for cause" strictly based on performance (and not the whole staffer rumor/nonsense)? If so, we should have.
What coach in their right mind would take that job after that happened? Remember the shite Auburn got after firing Chizik after 3 years? This would make that look like a picnic in the park.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:26 am to greygoose
No one said we wouldn't be on the hook for his contract. But doing this personal attack thing and then keeping him on was bush league. Just admit he is not a fit and move on. Separate because he is not qualified for the role.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:36 am to AUCE05
quote:If they fired him for the internet rumor, lawyers would have lined up to take his case, and Auburn would have been sued into oblivion, regardless if they paid off his contract. Loss of reputation is very serious, especially in that line of work.
No one said we wouldn't be on the hook for his contract. But doing this personal attack thing and then keeping him on was bush league. Just admit he is not a fit and move on. Separate because he is not qualified for the role.
If they fired him for performance, AFTER HIS 1ST YEAR, and going 6-7, the reputation would take a hit that would look like the death penalty. We would be regulated to scouring local high schools for a HC, because nobody halfway worth a damn, is going to work for someone like that.
Greene was way over his head, dealing with our BOD.
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 10:38 am
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:37 am to greygoose
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Remember the shite Auburn got after firing Chizik after 3 years?
This will always be a thing. Auburn will always get negative press in this state. It’s the reason why we are so “dysfunctional” and “out of control. The state press will always cover Auburn negatively because it will drive clicks from both alabama and Auburn fans. Bama fans ain’t gonna click a positive Auburn article.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:40 am to tilco
quote:The State? This was a talking point on national broadcasts. People outside of the State were incredulous that we fired a natty winning coach, after just 3 years. I'm not defending the decision, just pointing out how decisions like that can bite you hard in the arse.
This will always be a thing. Auburn will always get negative press in this state. It’s the reason why we are so “dysfunctional” and “out of control. The state press will always cover Auburn negatively because it will drive clicks from both alabama and Auburn fans. Bama fans ain’t gonna click a positive Auburn article.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:44 am to greygoose
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All this falls at the feet of Gus. Even with the transfer portal, rebuilding a starting OL from the ground up, is a Herculean task. It's rare to come across a true freshman that is ready to start at the Div 1 level, much less, the SEC. I'm no Harsin fan, but you can't blame him for the crap that is our line. This is his 1st full recruiting cycle, and after the shite our BOD pulled last Winter, only an idiot wouldn't think that would affect recruiting.
Buddy, he has had ~3 transfer portal windows and has done nothing. This was all BEFORE the "coup attempt". Repeat after me: NOTHING. "Herculean"? Get the frick out of here. Are you high? Bring in ONE transfer per each cycle he has sat on his hands and you have a revamped line. Killien Zierer has actually been competent, so he doesn't need to be replaced.
You want another fun one that everyone forgets or is blind to? He didn't want to play Tashawn Manning last season and he transferred to Kentucky. Manning is now STARTING on an SEC team that is ranked in the Top 10! Helloooooo! Is your brain awake yet? But but but Gus Malzahn! Instead we are STILL trotting out Brandon Council. The idiot at the helm can't even evaluate his own players, apparently. Keiondre Jones has actually REGRESSED under Harsin, but I'm sure that somehow has something to do with Malzahn as well?
I'm sorry, but anyone still talking about Gus Malzahn at this point needs to get a fricking CT scan on their brain. This is a clown-show talking point.
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 10:47 am
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:45 am to greygoose
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Remind me how'd that worked out? fricker had to be pressured by his own players, to get Rudy in a game!
That was Dan Devine
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:48 am to wareaglepete
quote:Yep. Devine was Rudy's coach. Faust was the HS coach.
That was Dan Devine
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:52 am to greygoose
I agree that firing him for 6-7 his first year would have been a terrible look. I think the witch hunt for "cause" could look as bad, maybe worse. If the PTB knew he was on a short leash why not keep it quite, let ADAG go, then just hire him whenever we fire him for poor recruiting, Penn State loss, then whatever loss finishes him off?
The fact that being absolutely God awful at your job in college football isn't "cause" like any other job is downright stupid.
The fact that being absolutely God awful at your job in college football isn't "cause" like any other job is downright stupid.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:57 am to metafour
Gus started the no OL recruit shite show, gets canned, and his replacement continued the trend. We need to find the candidate that's the complete opposite of these 2 assclowns and make him an offer that can't be refused
Posted on 9/21/22 at 11:06 am to Poker Dough
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