re: Buccees Mascot Coaching Edition (Former Jet Tracking)

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If Rhule was the one it would be great to fire harsin and hire him now. What a great jump on keeping players and recuiting

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Or the same goes for Urban. He’s available right now.

I mean...he's a proven winner in CFB, but the last time he did coach football...it didn't end well

IDK if I'd take that risk, plus he might be content doing Big Noon Kickoff for FOX.

Not sure I'd leave that for another coaching gig

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Shockingly, and I mean in every sense of the word, there will be people on this board claiming they don’t want Urban Meyer.

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I think Meyer is possibly the best pure coach out there. My only issue is that he has happy feet when it comes to staying somewhere. If I knew he would come to Auburn and stay he would be my first choice by far. Maybe a lifetime clause where if he leaves he has to pay back every penny we gave him. Or he can't coach for 10 years. Something drastic to keep him from jumping ship.

I would love to see cUM as our coach. Immediate hit with recruits and in the transfer portal.

Don’t care about his Jax debacle. He knows how to hire a staff, so even if he took off in 5-7 years, we would be rolling.

Why do we keep arguing about who is possibly a better candidate then another? We haven't hired an AD yet. We haven't fired Harsin yet. Sure some stuff might be going on behind the scenes but the AD, timing of the Harsin firing, what search firm is used for the coaching search will all be important to who comes out as candidates. Yes we know there are supporters in the fan base that want Prime, Freeze, Kiffin, and Rhule. We know some assistants with connections to AU that would know the landscape.

Biggest issue I see right now from the fans perspective is that we have an idea that we are gonna find a great coach that is gonna come in and turn things around over a year or 2 and stay for 20 years and win 10 games a year. Unless you play a week schedule or have superior talent over all but possibly 1 team it's very difficult to win 10 games. I just want a coach that is competent, recruits his arse off and is at least competitive on the trail with our rivals, has the ability to put us in position to have a chance in any game on our schedule. If that coach stays 4 years fine, if he stays 8 fine, 12 fine, 15 sure. But coaches staying 20-25 years aren't happening any more.

With all that being said as I posted many pages back early on in the thread I expect it to be Freeze.

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Why do we keep arguing about who is possibly a better candidate then another? We haven't hired an AD yet. We haven't fired Harsin yet.

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BLZR, come keep your boy busy

Whisper it three times in front of the mirror and it will appear

Pearl has accomplished everything he did at UT and more at Auburn. Starting to think Freeze could accomplish everything he did at Ole Miss and more too. Hopefully football related, not call girl related. Who am I kidding, I don't care about someone calling a call girl.

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Or the same goes for Urban. He’s available right now.

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Are you not the least bit concerned on how Urban left his last 3 jobs?

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I don't know why people see Kiffin as a homerun hire. He has lost 1/3 of his games as a HC and ends up losing long term. He's had his chance at a big school with talent and failed. He has a couple good years then drops off. He still hasn't beaten anyone considered good (at this point) this year and everyone is singing him praises. The outside fan bases want him here because they know he won't likely succeed and in 2 or 3 years we will be right back where we are.

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This post is hilarious.

Everything that I just bolded is observed at only 1 of his 4 NCAA head coaching appearances, and yet it's phrased as if this is a repeated observable "law" that he follows at every stop.

Let's clarify what you just said: it literally only applies to his time at USC. It didn't apply to his tenure at Tennessee considering that he was only there for one season. It didn't apply to his time at FAU considering that he left after a 10-win conference championship season (and thus he certainly didn't drop-off there), and it obviously doesn't apply to his time at Ole Miss considering that he's currently 7-1 in what was actually supposed to be a "down" or "rebuilding" season for them as per all of the offseason talk and analysis.

Now, there are two important things that need to be pointed out about his failure at USC, since that is really the only thing you're talking about:

1) He was coaching a team that was under NCAA sanctions and penalties throughout his entire tenure there.
2) He was 35 years old when he was handed that job.

Point #2 is one that I find people really struggle to grasp. Kiffin's entire early coaching history can be described as this: he was handed jobs that he was in no way shape or form ready for, way too quickly in his career. This set him up for failure from day one. Al Davis made him an NFL HC at just 32 years old despite the fact that he had literally only been an OC at USC for two seasons up until that point. Then Tennessee and USC (two major NCAA programs) made him the HC of their programs despite the fact that he had zero HC'ing success anywhere. The USC position in particular asked an immature 35 year old to navigate a major program that had just been hammered by the NCAA over the whole Reggie Bush deal.

As expected, he failed. But one needs to understand that it's not normal course of action for a 35 year old to be even put into that position in the first place. Most coaches at that age are still position coaches, and young ones at that. Zac Etheridge is almost 35 years old - imagine Etheridge being hired as our HC and asked to clean up Harsin's mess. That's actually not that far off from what USC did. Lane Kiffin is a guy who would have greatly benefitted from following the traditional course and cutting his teeth at a smaller program first to develop his ability as a HC. INstead, the guy got offered an NFL HC job at 32 years old. The exact opposite.

At the end of the day, you're not hiring 35 year old Lane Kiffin so it's an irrelevant data point. He is 47 years old now and has clearly improved drastically as a HC through time and experience. How do we know that he has improved? Well he is doing considerably better at Ole Miss which is an inferior school that plays in a much harder conference, than he did at USC.

Some of you need to work on applying more logic and thought to your arguments. It's not an absurd proposition to suggest that an extremely young HC can fail and then over time learn to do the job through further experience. You need to apply critical thinking and also consider what the parameters of failure even were in the first place.