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Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:25 am to jangalang
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:25 am to jangalang
Yes but the point you're setting up is faulty. I've never watched ohtani play baseball but i know he's one of the best players in the league. It doesn't matter how many games I've watched him play, when you draft a guy that high you expect more than they're getting. Like nyc said, ask a rockets fan what they think, it won't be positive
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:28 am to RandySavage
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Like nyc said, ask a rockets fan what they think, it won't be positive
Even this guy bunks what you say
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So to defend your point you bring a post that says he can't dribble, can't create shots, and you can't build a team around him? Weird choice
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:57 am to RandySavage
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There haven't been any
Now you're just completely full of shite.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:01 am to RandySavage
quote:He clearly didnt say he cant shoot.
So to defend your point you bring a post that says he can't dribble, can't shoot, and you can't build a team around him?
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He can only catch and shoot 3s or post up and hit a fadeaway. And that’s fine. But he doesn’t have any other offensive skills to build around.
This is what he said which you ignored.
Those skills are what got him drafted that high to begin with.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:11 am to RandySavage
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Yes but the point you're setting up is faulty. I've never watched ohtani play baseball but i know he's one of the best players in the league.
If this is your point while calling my reasoning faulty then the Aubie bored better #BuckleUp. Because you clearly cawing for a tangleup.
I dont blame you for only caring about stats but as Auburn dudes we see players perform roles that are less seen in the statsheet. Dylan Cardwell did some of his best work when his stats remained low. All I am saying is there is context in everything. Sometimes you agree with me sometimes you dont. Dont you remember defending Bo Nix just because people didn't like his stats? You weren't an avid Bo defender but you also didnt like the direction of the program after he left.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:21 am to jangalang
I was the biggest, or at least among them, bo defender and never wavered. Again it's just a difference in expectation i guess, i thought jabari would be an all star averaging 20+ a night. You seem to think being a role player with a long career is enough. He's been one the least productive picks from his lottery class by raw statistics or efficiency metrics
Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:58 am to RandySavage
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doesn't matter how many games I've watched him play, when you
So let me get this straight, you haven't watched him play in the NBA, and you don't understand or know the statistics that tell how good a player has been in the NBA or college. PER, Win shares, VORP, true shooting, etc individually don't tell you everything about a player, but in total they give you a very good idea of how good a player has been in a particular season and/or career.
And yet you still try and talk about him as a player, despite the fact you are simply talking out of your butt with your opinion.
Jabari came out into the NBA with his dribble drive skills being a known weakness. Scouts basically said if he fixed that he could be elite, otherwise his likely scenario was a solid 3 and d guy. He obviously hasn't fixed the driving skills, and odds are he probably won't (and definitely won't with the coaching and offense he has now).
There are tons of extremely successful 3 and d spot of shooters in the NBA, but the thing about them is they need someone to get them the ball. Now Jabari needs to elevate his 3 point percentage from 35%+ to like 38%+, but otherwise he's a very solid 3 and d guy.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 3:06 pm to auyushu
I've looked at those metrics. His efficiency is not good relative to other players in his lottery. His NET offense, defense, and overall rating is negative (and was worse in the playoffs). His raw stats are very average at best. There's just no spinning it.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 3:13 pm to RandySavage
quote:ikr
So to defend your point you bring a post that says he can't dribble, can't create shots, and you can't build a team around him? Weird choice
Jang also believes Jabari could have locked down Larry Bird on defense
Posted on 5/8/25 at 3:56 pm to RandySavage
I claim biggest Bo defender sorry
Posted on 5/8/25 at 4:31 pm to auburnnyc94
like hell you are
Posted on 5/8/25 at 4:31 pm to AuburnTigers
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Jang also believes Jabari could have locked down Larry Bird on defense
Bari> Birdy
Posted on 5/8/25 at 4:33 pm to jangalang
Check this history ho
Posted on 5/8/25 at 4:34 pm to auburnnyc94
Your case: denied
Posted on 5/8/25 at 5:03 pm to jangalang
So...hope we are done talking about Pros while in our Recruiting Thread.
Any speculation if we will be picking up another recruit/transfer?
Any speculation if we will be picking up another recruit/transfer?
Posted on 5/8/25 at 5:06 pm to 88TIger
Insiders have gone on strike lol
Posted on 5/8/25 at 5:25 pm to 88TIger
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So...hope we are done talking about Pros while in our Recruiting Thread.
You and me both. Not sure why this 4 page Jabari tangent can’t have its own thread instead of cluttering up the recruiting thread.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 5:26 pm to AUTiger1978
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You and me both. Not sure why this 4 page Jabari tangent can’t have its own thread instead of cluttering up the recruiting thread.
Bless your heart
Posted on 5/8/25 at 5:35 pm to RandySavage
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His efficiency is not good relative to other players in his lottery. His NET offense, defense, and overall rating is negative
The hell it is. In terms of win shares he is 4th in the top 12 of his draft class, in win shares per 48 mins he's 5th. Jalen Williams the 12th pick is by far the highest in terms of WS and value over replacement level. Jabari kinda sucks in terms of VORP buts he's still 6th in terms of that lottery.
Now if you are trying to use plus/minus to judge him and saying his net overall rating for career is negative because of plus/minus that's funny. Everyone on a crappy team from his draft class has a negative plus/minus, because that is an overall team stat as much as it's a player stat.
Literally the only people from his draft lottery with a positive career plus/minus are Williams, Holmgren, Banchero (barely here), and Daniels (negative career offensively but positive defensively). Banchero had a negative plus/minus when he was ROY.
And yes Houston was good last year, but their offense was not great. Sengun and Thompson were really their only players with positive plus/minus due to the ability to create on their own. Their point guard had a negative offensive plus/minus, which is a large part of their problems.
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