re: Any of you who are still making excuses for Hugh Freeze

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I more just find it funny that the opinion is we can’t get a great coach right now (which I agree with),

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I think people who are winning at a high level at a high level program won't jump at the chance to be here. However, we can get a good coach but need good people on the selection. We probably could have gotten Coach Curt S when he was at JMU instead of Freeze. He has proven to be a winner since he has been a HC. I have issues when we talk about going after folks like Jimbo who IMO wasn't a great head coach. Did he do well at FSU yeah but how many real games did he have to win each year in the ACC?

I think our fans think people are jumping to come to AU but in reality they aren't. There are those that will but big names? Probably not. Why? Well take a look at our fan base. Passionate but small, less money than say other big programs. We don't have as big alumni base as many state schools. We have an interesting future that is for sure....

What has Hugh done well since he’s been here?

Nothing. Paper recruiting classes. Best recruited players are transfers. I guess he’s kissed a lot of arse of the higher ups or this dude will be getting walking papers at end of year. It’s total dog shite and a waste. Ruining our program, not rebuilding shite as we’ve gotten worse. A lot worse in yr 1 and 2

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I still can't figure out why some people were falling over themselves to hire this liability in the first place..

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Great value Gus, with extreme baggage that AU now wears.

Hiring Hugh was AU insisting we could pick up a turd by the clean end.

Folks were always quick to say, "What about Bruce?" The Bruce Pearl comparisons killed me. Bruce was a winner and his "crime" was lying about a freaking BBQ. Hugh was mid on his very best day and his "crime" was sleazy, wrapped with dumbassery.

Hugh was worse in every measure than Gus, and yet some touted him as some great savior here to resurrect AU from the ashes. He was a great QB whisperer and Walker White would lead us into the promise land. What the heck happened to WW?

He's resurrected recruiting, no doubt. His gameday coaching, time management, offensive identity, motivating the team, culture he has built, is just meh. There is no foundation in the work, beyond recruiting stars.

We hired Hugh and we got the exact product we chose.

I have zero faith that the next hire, whenever that is, will be any better. We are scared to swing for the fences, when hiring HCs. We bunt. In the words of Kent Murphy, "Never fricking bunt."

I'm so glad basketball is here.

Can you imagine Auburn power brokers trying to rein in Deion and his antics?

Oh no doubt!

I COMPLETELY agree.

Hugh is their YES man. Hugh is a schmoozer, politician type which is why he recruits so well.

Gus marched to the beat of his own drum and they didn’t like that.

lol I haven’t thrown around shite and my feelings aren’t hurt. I just think you’re wrong and don’t have a strong argument.


Lashlee? Lol please bro, we can get him if we wanted. You are trying too hard here to make it sound like Auburn is a shite school that can’t bring in a decent coach. I’m not saying they can pull in a Harbough or anything. I made my point that few schools can bring in big time coaches.

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If you are going to call for a coach’s head every time things don’t go well, you can’t also complain about us not being able to get a good coach. They go hand in hand. Nobody wants to come to Auburn because we treat our coaches like this.

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Freeze has to be given time. Harsin had to go. Everything he was doing, and not doing, was exponentially setting the program back. Harsin had to go, and to a lesser extent, Chizik too. Chizik's downward spiral pinnacled with his decision to hire private security to check up on his own players. He lost his team and they quit on him. In Chizik's defense, I think he worked hard and had the best interest of the team at heart. Harsin was just an arrogant dick. As far as Gus, it's hard to put a finger on his spiral down, but I think most would agree that it was time to go. His antics on the sideline made me wonder if the stress had made him have a mental breakdown. Unfortunately, the timing could not have been worse with who was president and AD at the time.

We have such a good defense this year too...

Sucks there is no offense to go along with it.

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Flashbacks to a whole lot of Gus' teams!

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As much as I hated Gus in the later years (just ask Spots) he was 1000% better coach than Brother Hugh the Baptizer is.

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Lashlee? Lol please bro, we can get him if we wanted. You are trying too hard here to make it sound like Auburn is a shite school that can’t bring in a decent coach.

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It's not that.

SMU is a school with a lot of resources, in a major city in a vastly talent rich, football crazy state. They are ranked and rapidly improving. Auburn is a great school but we are hampered by the very money that drives us. Coaches can look over who we have hired and fired over the years and see a clear pattern emerging. Tuberville bucked the system and they tried to stage a coup. The cat and mouse game with Malzahn was an embarassment. When we did "think outside the box" with a coaching hire, we did a VERY poor job of vetting him and then basically tried to nationally embarrass the guy with an investigation rather than just fire him. Then we go hire a head coach who NO ONE outside of us wanted just because he won a couple of games against Nick Saban... after we had recently FIRED a guy who won THREE.

For a top coaching talent, the story is "You will not run your program. Your job will constantly be subject to the whims of a bickering group of rich good ol' boys. If you try and change that, you will be crippled or run out of town."

Lashlee watched this happen to his mentor. He's been here. Why would he come back at his young age? As long as he continues to succeed, SMU will make him rich.