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re: 8 Catchable Balls
Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:55 am to TheJones
Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:55 am to TheJones
quote:Your logic is flawed. 15 incompletions and 8 were catchable= 7 uncatchable passes.
Nix had 15 incompletions Saturday. I think Corch is talking about the 8 that were catchable. So in this scenario, the number you’re looking for is zero.
At the end of the day, I think the loss boils down to two, distinct reasons. Poor play by the receivers, and offensive/defensive coaching decisions. Eliminate either one of those, and probably leave Happy Valley with a win.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 11:57 am
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:55 am to CorchJay
I just came to say....
On a couple of throws, it was obvious that the receiver and Bo were not on the same page, hell probably not even reading the same book as far as what route was supposed to be run.
On a couple of throws, it was obvious that the receiver and Bo were not on the same page, hell probably not even reading the same book as far as what route was supposed to be run.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:08 pm to greygoose
You quoted his post that talks about the 8 catchable balls and asked how many weren’t catchable 
What is one supposed to assume here? 
What is one supposed to assume here? Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:08 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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I am not sold on this one yet, That ball seemed to land about 3-4 yards out of bounds. I would like to see that one from several angles again though.
I know he lost it in flight, but I am questioning how catchable it was. I just couldn't tell.
I have gone back and looked at some of those deep balls.
On the one down the left sidelines(lost in the lights..right), Robertson is streaking down the side about 3-4 yards inside the outside line, and is beating his man. If Bo is accurate he should have laid it either in front of Robertson or slightly to his right which is what Robertson is looking for. Bo's pass fades to the leftside of Robertson AND the DB who is also on the left side of Robertson, and there was no way for Robertson to look back and adjust. Too much adjustment. Bo simply didn't throw it in the best possible place for the WR to catch it.
On the long pass down the right side. RObertson again, separates from the DB near the 10 yard line and Bo again launches it but much farther to the inside, fading to the left where Robertson had no chance to come back that far to get it. As a matter of fact Bo threw it so far to RObertson's left that the safety almost would have had a chance to INT. Again, a throw Bo HAS to provide better accuracy on.
That's 2 sure TDs and a big momentum swing....
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:10 pm to IAmNERD
quote:deep ball was there. WR were open, Bo threw rainbows
So nothing even resembling a deep threat.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:13 pm to TheJones
Correct none of those were catchable.
Bo had 3 really bad throws and 2 others that were poor throws. 8 catchable. So that equals 13 so the other 2 were throws that weren't terrible but weren't catchable. 1 of those being the throw away.
Bo had 3 really bad throws and 2 others that were poor throws. 8 catchable. So that equals 13 so the other 2 were throws that weren't terrible but weren't catchable. 1 of those being the throw away.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:16 pm to AuSteeler
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On the one down the left sidelines(lost in the lights..right), Robertson is streaking down the side about 3-4 yards inside the outside line, and is beating his man. If Bo is accurate he should have laid it either in front of Robertson or slightly to his right which is what Robertson is looking for. Bo's pass fades to the leftside of Robertson AND the DB who is also on the left side of Robertson, and there was no way for Robertson to look back and adjust. Too much adjustment. Bo simply didn't throw it in the best possible place for the WR to catch it.
On the long pass down the right side. RObertson again, separates from the DB near the 10 yard line and Bo again launches it but much farther to the inside, fading to the left where Robertson had no chance to come back that far to get it. As a matter of fact Bo threw it so far to RObertson's left that the safety almost would have had a chance to INT. Again, a throw Bo HAS to provide better accuracy on.
Deep ball to the left should have been caught.
Deep ball to the right was horribly throw and in the game thread we all threw a fit because Bo got some light pressure and didn't climb the pocket or set his feet so agree with you on this one. Totally disagree on the first you mentioned.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:17 pm to TheJones
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:17 pm to TheJones
quote:I'm not defending receiver play at all, but ask yourself this, if Bo had been more accurate, and those long balls were caught, would we be gripping that much about the receivers today?
You quoted his post that talks about the 8 catchable balls and asked how many weren’t catchable What is one supposed to assume here?
Hell, we'd probably be celebrating the victory!
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:24 pm to greygoose
We bitched about WR play and we won 62-0 the week before
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:24 pm to greygoose
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if Bo had been more accurate, and those long balls were caught, would we be gripping that much about the receivers today?
Bo being more accurate also depends on receivers catching the balls that they can catch, right? They have a role in this pass and catch relationship too. Obviously Bo had misses and as you’re pointing out, several were in big spots that also effect the outcome.
So yes and no here if we’re being honest. If Bo throws 37 times and only 7 or 8 are uncatchable then we need to be winning that game because that’s about as good of a performance from him as we should expect
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:29 pm to TheJones
The one where Demetrius Robertson got helicoptered after jumping for the reception and then getting tackled I’m okay with the drop.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:32 pm to jangalang
I’m curious now what the usual breakdown is of catchable/uncatchable because this conversation is a little chicken/egg-ish and I’m not clear on how I should expect that distribution to look like
Because greygoose isn’t inherently wrong by any means. Maybe I’m too forgiving of Bo here? Hard to determine
Because greygoose isn’t inherently wrong by any means. Maybe I’m too forgiving of Bo here? Hard to determine
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:34 pm to jangalang
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The one where Demetrius Robertson got helicoptered after jumping for the reception and then getting tackled I’m okay with the drop.
Frick that, he had no business dropping that.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:35 pm to TheJones
quote:The point is, there's a LOT of blame to go around. Hell, I blame Derek Mason and his zone defense for the loss, just as much as the receivers and QB play. We were picked apart the whole game, and never adjusted. How do you see zero pass rush and the QB having all day to find an open receiver, and not start playing man and blitzing more?
Bo being more accurate also depends on receivers catching the balls that they can catch, right? They have a role in this pass and catch relationship too. Obviously Bo had misses and as you’re pointing out, several were in big spots that also effect the outcome.
So yes and no here if we’re being honest. If Bo throws 37 times and only 7 or 8 are uncatchable then we need to be winning that game because that’s about as good of a performance from him as we should expect
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:36 pm to TheJones
Just be pissed at everyone and then it works out better that way.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:37 pm to greygoose
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there's a LOT of blame to go around.
Agreed
Penn ST QB 88% completion. That is pathetic on our part to say the least.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:37 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:I hope Harsin takes your advice!
Just be pissed at everyone and then it works out better that way.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:42 pm to TheJones
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I’m curious now what the usual breakdown is of catchable/uncatchable because this conversation is a little chicken/egg-ish and I’m not clear on how I should expect that distribution to look like Because greygoose isn’t inherently wrong by any means. Maybe I’m too forgiving of Bo here? Hard to determine
When Sean White was QB and the “drops” were always an issue the unforgiving fans that possibly wanted to human sacrifice receivers on the sidelines said the receivers were supposed to catch it if one hand touches the ball. Diving catch, behind the back, body distorted, deflected, whatever. Most of that narrative went away when we got Stidham.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:55 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Agreed
Penn ST QB 88% completion. That is pathetic on our part to say the least.
IFS
Which one of these "ifs" would made a good chance for the win?:
IF the receivers caught the catchable balls....
IF Nix hadn't overthrown wide open receivers....
If we had ran more man-coverage defense and put more pressure on the QB....
IF we started the 2nd half with Tank or Hunter on an off-tackle run...
IF we had ran anything other than the fade route on 4th and goal from the 2.....
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