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8 Catchable Balls

Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:42 am
Posted by CorchJay
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:42 am
None caught.

The game within the game.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:50 am to
Yeah I just read that Shedrick was targeted 8 times and had 2 catches. Robertson had 5 with 10 targets. Hudson was caught 4 of his 6 targets.

I obviously don't remember every single one of those targets and which were catchable, but those numbers just aren't gonna cut it. 5 yards per catch as well on the night. So nothing even resembling a deep threat.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 10:51 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:52 am to
The WRs cost us the game. Plain and simple. Bitch about Bobo or the defense all you like, but if we could simply fricking catch, we win that game. FACT.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:53 am to
Bo had a few poor throws. But 8 balls that are catchable and dropped or the play not made is completely unacceptable. Even if 4 are caught you probably add 50-80 yards of offense. Because we know 2 of those were huge gainers.
Posted by IAmNERD
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:56 am to
Yeah, bottom line is that group, as a whole, has to be better. We all know they aren't gonna beat guys with just pure athleticism. So they have to come through when the "routine" plays when they're there.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:57 am to
quote:

The WRs cost us the game. Plain and simple. Bitch about Bobo or the defense all you like, but if we could simply fricking catch, we win that game. FACT.


Can't agree anymore then I am. Preach brother. I've been bitching about WR and WR recruiting for 4 years now. You can't take WRs ranked 40-60 (Even if they are rated 4 stars) and expect to compete with Top 20 teams in throwing situations. A team like Auburn must get a Top 20 WR every recruiting cycle and once ever 3-4 years get a Top 8 or 10 WR.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:58 am to
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Yeah I just read that Shedrick was targeted 8 times and had 2 catches.


8 Targets 2 receptions 6 yards
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:10 am to
I about fricking lost it when he tripped and dropped that ball on third down. They were in man coverage and he had a step on his guy. If he keeps his feet, it's an easy 1st down and possibly a TD. Lets not even talk about the TD pass that was 'lost in the lights'......
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:14 am to
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The WRs cost us the game



Stats are proving that out.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:16 am to
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TD pass that was 'lost in the lights'


I am not sold on this one yet, That ball seemed to land about 3-4 yards out of bounds. I would like to see that one from several angles again though.

I know he lost it in flight, but I am questioning how catchable it was. I just couldn't tell.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 11:29 am
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:17 am to
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Lets not even talk about the TD pass that was 'lost in the lights'


But But But muh Bo threw it as high as a punt...
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:19 am to
We are missing Schwartz big time. Sending him on sprint fly route would open up the middle of the field.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:30 am to
How short of a leash is coach C Will on to get this group improved?

Is he going to make a difference on the recruiting trail for us? I know he is the primary on Kelly in this class. But his experience being JSU, UAB, and the past 6 years at Troy (his alma mater) I don't see him as having a ton of relationships/experience outside the state of Alabama.

Or is it that he may be a great WR coach, but just doesn't have the talent? Idk. He was one of the pretty underwhelming hires imo. I do know we all said Kodi had to go for years though.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:34 am to
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You can't take WRs ranked 40-60 (Even if they are rated 4 stars) and expect to compete with Top 20 teams in throwing situations. A team like Auburn must get a Top 20 WR every recruiting cycle and once ever 3-4 years get a Top 8 or 10 WR.


This is true and it’s one thing we’ve always agreed on: the lack of top end WR recruiting is an obstacle for us.

But you’re missing something more important here. We actually need mostly top 20 guys if we’re relying on what our current roster tells us. Because most of our receivers are ranked better than #40-60

Since ‘18 (shed’s class)
#17 Matthew Hill
#30 Anthony Schwartz
#35 Seth Williams
#67 Shed Jackson
#43 Jar Johnson
#19 Kobe Hudson
#24 ZeVian Capers
#30 JJ Evans
#38 Malcolm Johnson Jr
#85 Elijah Canion
And then Dawson, who was an ATH but would slot into the 50s as a WR if the rating were the same

(Robertson was obviously the #1 WR in his class but I’m not exactly including that for this point).

So this tells me even with only 3 guys over that #40 spot that you pointed out, that it’s still not enough. IMO, the 20-40 range still includes so much variability in projection that they might not be worth completely relying on. We really need to be mostly in the 20 instead of being mostly in the 20-40.

2022: Kelly and Albert are in the 40’s if they end up as WRs. Fair is #70

Clemons is #20. Antonio Williams is #23. We need both of those guys
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 11:40 am
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:35 am to
Corn is well respected around alabama and generally in the south east as an up and comer.

Is he the long term solution I don't know but I would say he gets at least 2 years.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33273 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:36 am to
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Or is it that he may be a great WR coach, but just doesn't have the talent? Idk. He was one of the pretty underwhelming hires imo. I do know we all said Kodi had to go for years though.


Not sure on coaching yet. On recruiting, he’s been one of the more popular coaches on the trail according to 247 notes. If he closes with Clemons and Antonio Williams then he’s building a case as a recruiter. We’ll have to see what 2023 brings when the staff has the full cycle to work with. But, IMO, he needs to close with those 2
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24606 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:36 am to
This was Harsin's critique after the lazy first half of the game last week.

Catch the damn balls.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19173 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:42 am to
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Corn is well respected around alabama and generally in the south east as an up and comer.

Yeah, I know he's got good relationships in the state. Good to hear he's branching out and making inroads in the region outside of AL.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11430 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:44 am to
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None caught.

The game within the game.
How many passes were skipped across the ground or way overthrown?
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33273 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:46 am to
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How many passes were skipped across the ground or way overthrown?


Nix had 15 incompletions Saturday. I think Corch is talking about the 8 that were catchable. So in this scenario, the number you’re looking for is zero.
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