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Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:30 pm to
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:30 pm to
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If Ewers is leaving because he can't keep the job over Manning, then he is effectively being benched.

Okay let’s not pretend “Manning” is just another backup QB. Archie, Peyton, Eli… legends of the football game at every level they played, and Super Bowl/MVP winners. And not to mention the commercialization of them.

I’d want out of that situation as well if I was Ewers.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 7:31 pm
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9906 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

YARDS 2,307
TD 24
INT 7
QBR 71.4


Would you take this:

Yards 1900+
TD 11
INT 1
QBR 82.4










those numbers belong to Haynes King
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 7:36 pm
Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
14164 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:35 pm to
If we’ve got an OL that can open holes? Yes
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30917 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:38 pm to
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If we’ve got an OL that can open holes

This is all that matters. The portal draft better be all O-Line and a QB.
Posted by Johnnycrane
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2022
1476 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:40 pm to
Do you think Ewers is better than Thorne? I think that's what we're going with. A logical upgrade which involves more than stats. Paytons "stats" say he was a pretty good QB, but how many people on this board truly would take him over Ewers? What do your eyes tell you when watching both guys?
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4584 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:46 pm to
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Okay let’s not pretend “Manning” is just another backup QB. Archie, Peyton, Eli… legends of the football game at every level they played, and Super Bowl/MVP winners. And not to mention the commercialization of them.



So then you believe that Sarkisian is an idiot who would risk winning (and therefore his own job) in order to placate fans/the media by allowing nepotism (this is what you are describing) to place a significantly less experienced QB into his starting lineup?

Again, the "scenario" here is that Ewers is apparently this amazing Senior QB who is such a difference maker that it is totally worthwhile for Freeze to sit on his hands for weeks in the hopes that he actually enters the Portal and chooses us (even though again: if he is that good, he will have much better options than a 5-win Auburn team). But if this is true and Ewers is this amazing Senior QB, why would it make any sense for Sarkisian to let him leave? Texas is in position to compete for the national championship .
Posted by Johnnycrane
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2022
1476 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:50 pm to
Sark is letting him leave because Arch Manning "could be a top 5 pick. Ewers according to most is a 2-3rd round talent. What round will Thorne be selected in? Lol it's about upgrading the position.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 7:52 pm
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9889 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:50 pm to
Guys we could have Jesus Christ himself at QB and he would look pedestrian behind our OL. And he even walked on water.
Posted by Johnnycrane
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2022
1476 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:51 pm to
Agreed. that's why we're going after more Oline talent in the portal. Get a portal QB and that becomes easier.
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9889 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:54 pm to
We need to have the QB first in order to sell the OL, and anyone else, on playing with him. Not the other way around. Waiting on Ewers to be available is a risk, one that historically blow up in Auburn's face
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4584 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:59 pm to
quote:

Do you think Ewers is better than Thorne? I think that's what we're going with. A logical upgrade which involves more than stats. Paytons "stats" say he was a pretty good QB, but how many people on this board truly would take him over Ewers? What do your eyes tell you when watching both guys?



Of course I think that Ewers is better than Thorne. That isn't the point here.

The point is that none of this makes any sense from any angle. It doesn't make sense from Ewers' angle, and it doesn't make sense from our angle.

You understand that Texas is in the Playoffs, right? So you are proposing that Freeze is to sit on his hands and patiently wait and hope that Ewers actually decides to enter the Portal weeks from now? Other QB's who have similar or better stats than him will enter and commit to other schools in the meantime. Then, you are hoping that Ewers (this amazing difference maker QB) is going to sign with 5-win Auburn to play out his final season? If he has hopes of the NFL, why wouldn't he pick a team that is actually already proven to be good to play out his final season?

The risk here is hilariously idiotic for both Auburn AND Ewers. What happens if he has a good playoff game and just says frick it and goes to the NFL anyway? In the chance that he does stay and transfers: what happens if he uses his brain and picks a team with a more secure football team than ours is right now?

And repeating again: this entire theory all relies on this conundrum where he is both an amazing Senior QB who is a true difference maker for Auburn, but apparently Sarkisian would rather tell him to eff off so that they can crown a QB with less than 100 career pass attempts in the midst of a window where the expectation is that Texas is expected to compete for a national championship.

Makes sense! No holes anywhere in this story!

This is like the rumors of Jeff Fisher or Bob Stoops becoming the Auburn HC .
Posted by Johnnycrane
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2022
1476 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:59 pm to
That's what I said man lolol
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9889 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

Jeff Fisher or Bob Stoops


That was always fun to listen to
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 8:02 pm
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
14215 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:03 pm to
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We need to have the QB first in order to sell the OL, and anyone else, on playing with him. Not the other way around.
We are in a screwed up situation because we need both. Usually you have a half decent OLine and need a few upgrades and extra bodies. We have to show some kind of OLine to the QB and convince them they aren't going to get ran over like Thorne and also that we will be smart at Play calling in order to get a QB to sell the OLine on. Hiring a top OC would help with both and then grab 1 or 2 quality OL and then sell a QB on what the OC and upgraded OLine could look like with them at QB. The rest will follow.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 8:06 pm
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30917 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:04 pm to
quote:

So then you believe that Sarkisian is an idiot who would risk winning (and therefore his own job) in order to placate fans/the media by allowing nepotism (this is what you are describing) to place a significantly less experienced QB into his starting lineup?

No. He’s very smart actually in going about the one-time Manning thing in a walk around fashion.

The naked eye test says Ewers would be able to make all the throws Thorne missed. And our young receivers gained a year of experience.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 8:05 pm
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9889 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:05 pm to
We can't get out of our own way....again
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
70311 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:14 pm to
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Sark is letting him leave because Arch Manning "could be a top 5 pick. Ewers according to most is a 2-3rd round talent


Thats a hell of a risk to take


Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19386 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:14 pm to
Changing the subject, but Freeze said today that other coaches were telling AU recruits that "Freeze will soon step down."

I love to hear negative recruiting stories. I bet all kinds of wild stories are told on the trail.
Posted by Johnnycrane
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2022
1476 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:16 pm to
We're discussing hypotheticals. That's what a (discussion) board is all about. How can you say it makes no sense when money talks? Kromah just picked a 2 win FSU team over us and (GEORGIA). Today we are a 5 win team but Tomorrow with the addition of him and others (O-line) we'll be a completely different team. It's also about need. Go over the rest of the SEC and he doesn't have as many options as you believe. I have no reason to believe this (rumor) is true, but Auburn will do everything in its power to change this negative narrative and it's not an impossible outcome.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45157 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:17 pm to
He should have called them out by name
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