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re: 2022 Recruiting Thread
Posted on 12/20/21 at 11:35 am to TemperdTiger
Posted on 12/20/21 at 11:35 am to TemperdTiger
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It's not over with yet, this is just like everyone saying we would have a bad class back in July being top 50.
It’s not because those people purely looked at the current rankings and bitched.
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This is still way too early, but this is above average what we expected, and we still have 2 months left.
What YOU say YOU expect to happen is a disappointing class by our normal standard.
This post was edited on 12/20/21 at 11:38 am
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Posted on 12/20/21 at 11:37 am to TheJones
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Should learn more about QBs now with an OC/QB coach hired
Most important thing I’m watching. If we don’t get a decent guy in, I will have zero hope for next year.
And if Harsin doesn’t have a decent year next year, I can only imagine how hot his seat will be. Even though I think that’s a mistake.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 11:54 am to Weagle25
I thought that Calzada went to Pitt?
Heard Slovis might be leaning to Notre Dame.
Heard Slovis might be leaning to Notre Dame.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 12:37 pm to Weagle25
quote:As crazy as it sounds, Gus’ last year could likely factor into this.
And if Harsin doesn’t have a decent year next year, I can only imagine how hot his seat will be. Even though I think that’s a mistake.
If Bryan Harsin can’t manage to win more than 6 games in 2022, that will be the third straight season Auburn has had 6 wins or less. Yes, I realize one of those seasons was shortened and with another coach.
It’s just perception.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:00 pm to Weagle25
Gus:
2013 - #8
2014 - #9
2015 - #7
2016 - #15
2017 - #14
2018 - #12
2019 - #11
No Mans Land
2020 - #17
Harsin
2021 (to date) - #13
Seems to me its about average to slightly below the last guy, sizzle chest. It also should be noted this class isn't done, and we've also got one data point versus seven from the leader of the chewing-gum guild, Gus.
2013 - #8
2014 - #9
2015 - #7
2016 - #15
2017 - #14
2018 - #12
2019 - #11
No Mans Land
2020 - #17
Harsin
2021 (to date) - #13
Seems to me its about average to slightly below the last guy, sizzle chest. It also should be noted this class isn't done, and we've also got one data point versus seven from the leader of the chewing-gum guild, Gus.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:07 pm to TheJones
People are upset Harsin passed on players they wanted us to get and Harsin is being too picky. Then people are pissed Gus got 4* players but didn't develop them. Is it outside the realm of possibility that Gus wasn't being picky enough and was taking guys that didn't have a high enough ceiling to develop into SEC players? Maybe Harsin should be commended for not wasting spots on guys he feels don't have any room to devlop? Maybe Gus' problem was an evaluation one and not player development?
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:08 pm to AU86
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I thought that Calzada went to Pitt?
Heard Slovis might be leaning to Notre Dame.
You're right. My bad. This is the projected landing spots.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:15 pm to alpinetiger
2010 - #6
2011 - #5
2012 - #11
Not sure why y’all are making this Gus vs. Harsin. I don’t give a shite about Gus. I give a shite about getting Auburn to where we want it to be. You want it to get there then this class doesn’t cut it. And again for those in the back, I know there are reasons why this class was disappointing and I’m fine with it. Just saying next year has to be better. Not sure why that even makes you upset.
Gus’ last few classes were also lack luster. Thought the whole point of firing Gus was to get better?
Wtf does this even mean?
2011 - #5
2012 - #11
Not sure why y’all are making this Gus vs. Harsin. I don’t give a shite about Gus. I give a shite about getting Auburn to where we want it to be. You want it to get there then this class doesn’t cut it. And again for those in the back, I know there are reasons why this class was disappointing and I’m fine with it. Just saying next year has to be better. Not sure why that even makes you upset.
Gus’ last few classes were also lack luster. Thought the whole point of firing Gus was to get better?
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sizzle chest.
Wtf does this even mean?
This post was edited on 12/20/21 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:16 pm to Weagle25
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sizzle chest
Old Jerky Boys reference?
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:24 pm to Weagle25
quote:2010 & 2011 are historical outliers. Sure I'd like to sign the #5 class every year but that's what they were.
2010 - #6
2011 - #5
2012 - #11
The "class" isn't over yet, and its not a competition between Gus. If you throw Chizik and Tubs into it, Chiz was historically higher and Tubs was probably a bit below average in rankings for AU, but he and his staff were really good evaluators.
Sizzle chest is a reference to the Jerky Boys. Enjoy.:
Auto Mechanic
This post was edited on 12/20/21 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:24 pm to Weagle25
It's BS panic from you dude.
We are right where we always are, 6-10, and still have like 6-10 spots to recruit. We were a 6-6 team with these rankings, we're 6th in the SEC right now ahead of a bunch of teams that are ranked higher than we are. Calm your jimmies. The only 2 teams in the SEC that we would normally be ranked higher over are Kentucky/Mizzou. Mizzou was bumped up due to getting a 5 star from the same area (Illinois)--Kentucky went 9-3. We're higher than Kiffin, Kelly, and Pittman.
We have a 4 star committed, not yet signed with story, and are in the running for at least 2 more which could potentially vault us over them.
So yes it's not over with, and after the disaster coaching change that happened a year and 4 days from now after the coach was fired 3 days before ESD I am legitimately impressed with what they've accomplished as above average.
We are right where we always are, 6-10, and still have like 6-10 spots to recruit. We were a 6-6 team with these rankings, we're 6th in the SEC right now ahead of a bunch of teams that are ranked higher than we are. Calm your jimmies. The only 2 teams in the SEC that we would normally be ranked higher over are Kentucky/Mizzou. Mizzou was bumped up due to getting a 5 star from the same area (Illinois)--Kentucky went 9-3. We're higher than Kiffin, Kelly, and Pittman.
We have a 4 star committed, not yet signed with story, and are in the running for at least 2 more which could potentially vault us over them.
So yes it's not over with, and after the disaster coaching change that happened a year and 4 days from now after the coach was fired 3 days before ESD I am legitimately impressed with what they've accomplished as above average.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:27 pm to TheJones
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So that leads me to believe that they’re not solely interested in filling positions unless they believe they’ve got a guy that’s going to be a good player. If they can have a guy but don’t want them — is that not being picky?
Harsin literally said this is their approach. It’s not a spin, it may have been your opinion, but it is an accurate opinion because Harsin said they want a certain type of player. He said he doesn’t feel the OL situation is so bad he needs to fill the need with the wrong recruit.
It is my opinion that he has a clear picture of how he wants to and how he has to build the program. He is not letting the chatter of fans and others affect how he carries it out, no matter how many of us believe we know better.
Now, hopefully Harsin can prove his method and process works. I am betting on him being right and willing to give him time. Others obviously feel he isn’t the right guy and definitely not patient enough to see if he is.
One caveat is how will Auburn/Harsin navigate NIL and the new free agent market taking shape.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:29 pm to TemperdTiger
I just have to know. Is TemperedTiger Mike G or just takes everything he says a gospel?
The Auburn Rant must know!!
The Auburn Rant must know!!
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:31 pm to CorchJay
No, gtfoh. Just because I listen to them sometimes, you come in here with your BS comments just to get a rise. Go troll somewhere else. Nothing I said has anything to do with TWR
This post was edited on 12/20/21 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:32 pm to alpinetiger
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2010 & 2011 are historical outliers. Sure I'd like to sign the #5 class every year but that's what they were.
I’m not saying we have to be 5. We should be in the top 10 though
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:34 pm to Weagle25
I think you'd rather be 41
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:34 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Damn Rocky every coach says they want a certain type of player. It’s coach speak. To think with the shite OL we have we can wait cycles in recruiting to get high school kids that meet every criteria is a little ridiculous. We missed on OL it’s ok to admit it. Can we make it up in the portal I have no idea? I hope so.
Just wait here’s a prediction for you Bama, UGA, aTm, possibly LSU will land some solid ranked OL next year. We will land some as well we have no choice but we will finish behind them overall at that position group but will be said it’s a weak class for OL. Happens every time we get our arse whipped on OL recruiting.
Just wait here’s a prediction for you Bama, UGA, aTm, possibly LSU will land some solid ranked OL next year. We will land some as well we have no choice but we will finish behind them overall at that position group but will be said it’s a weak class for OL. Happens every time we get our arse whipped on OL recruiting.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:36 pm to Weagle25
I'm saying I think we will be in the top 10, which is crazy to me when we are 6-6 right now. It's like the recruits see Harsin's work ethic and are buying in to that.
This post was edited on 12/20/21 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:39 pm to TemperdTiger
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Nothing I said has anything to do with TWR
Other then everything you come here and say is exactly what is said on the show. That’s all. I like the War Rapport dudes. It’s a good fan show. Do they know shite? Nope. But it’s a good fan show.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 1:39 pm to TemperdTiger
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It's BS panic from you dude.
How you can take anything im saying as panicking, I have no idea.
You can criticize and not being panicking. I even said Harsin had an excuse to have a disappointing class. This is some of what I was talking about needing all negative Randy and Corch to balance guys like you.
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We are right where we always are, 6-10
We’re not finishing top 10 unless we pull prospects out of our arse. I’m well aware of who we have targeted. Who we have a chance of landing. We land all the guys we think we can right now, still won’t be top 10.
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We have a 4 star committed, not yet signed with story, and are in the running for at least 2 more which could potentially vault us over them.
You’re over estimating how many points those guys give us, not realizing that Story is already counted in our score, and not factoring in the fact that those other teams will also get more commits (a lot of the teams around us have less commits than us despite you saying the opposite earlier).
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I am legitimately impressed with what they've accomplished as above average.
I don’t think you even know what I’m saying at this point. You lowered your expectation due to circumstances around the program. That’s the standard you’re comparing to and that’s fine.
I’m saying by normal standards in a normal year of recruiting with no lowered expectations, it’s a disappointing class.
Everything you’re say are the talking points from a month ago. They no longer apply. Time to update them now that we got all the commits we expected to get.
I’m now done with this topic. Let’s move on.
This post was edited on 12/20/21 at 1:46 pm
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