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re: 2021 NFL Draft Projections
Posted on 4/26/21 at 12:17 pm to makersmark1
Posted on 4/26/21 at 12:17 pm to makersmark1
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Schwartz has speed, but I don’t think a team burns a top 50 pick for him.
Raiders are notorious for burning top 50 picks on speed.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 2:26 pm to makersmark1
quote:Im interested to see where Sherwood goes. I think his size fits well in the NFL
3 rounds is 96 picks.
I’m not sure any of these men will be picked in top 100.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 3:31 pm to ChexMix
It just takes one team to like you and they’ll make the pick.
I wish all the guys the best.
Tutt will not be drafted.
Britt is an old school LB. needs a team to like his thumping style.
Sherwood is a big safety. I could see a team take him in round 3.
Seth is a big body. I just don’t think a team will reach in round 2.
Maybe he makes round 3.
I think these guys mostly are between 75 and 150 picks.
I wish all the guys the best.
Tutt will not be drafted.
Britt is an old school LB. needs a team to like his thumping style.
Sherwood is a big safety. I could see a team take him in round 3.
Seth is a big body. I just don’t think a team will reach in round 2.
Maybe he makes round 3.
I think these guys mostly are between 75 and 150 picks.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:02 pm to ChexMix
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oof. Seth quit on plays not designed for himself A LOT and displayed a poor attitude. Its the truth, not feelings
Many all-pro receivers are like that. Wide receivers are divas these days and that’s the nice word for it. Literally nobody can watch the Kentucky and Miss State games and say he’s not a competitor. In the State game I wouldn’t be surprised if he told Nix throw him the damn ball and let me shut this muh fricker up.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:11 pm to jangalang
quote:Seth definitely had his moments of brilliance no doubt, however, they do not erase the memory of him playing selfishly. Loafing, not blocking, giving half assed effort when losing, etc.
Many all-pro receivers are like that. Wide receivers are divas these days and that’s the nice word for it. Literally nobody can watch the Kentucky and Miss State games and say he’s not a competitor. In the State game I wouldn’t be surprised if he told Nix throw him the damn ball and let me shut this muh fricker up.
That kind of attitude is accepted in the NFL. Not so much in college.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:14 pm to jangalang
Competitors don't get led to the brink of tears due to getting getting manhandled by a South Carolina CB in press coverage and then quit on their team. I think you're mistaking how much he enjoyed winning battles to being a competitor. Competitors, to me, hate losing and bring it every damn down.
This post was edited on 4/26/21 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:14 pm to jangalang
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Many all-pro receivers are like that. Wide receivers are divas these days and that’s the nice word for it. Literally nobody can watch the Kentucky and Miss State games and say he’s not a competitor. In the State game I wouldn’t be surprised if he told Nix throw him the damn ball and let me shut this muh fricker up.
This is kind of a half-truth and not diving into it fully. The all-pro receivers who are "like that" more or less had to EARN that "privilege" - you won't find many "average" receivers in the NFL who get to pout like that and keep playing. And how many of the all-pro guys were "inconsistent" in college? The problem with Seth Williams is that that behaviour already manifests as an obvious deterrent in his performance at the college level. Again, the guys who do that in the NFL generally couldn't be stopped in any collegiate game they played - that isn't the case with Seth Williams. And of course some of that boils down to offensive scheme and quarterback play, but let's step away and differentiate that there's a difference between Randy Moss, Steve Smith, Terrell Owens or whoever else we're "thinking of" and Seth Williams. Him dominating Kentucky or Miss State should be a given, not something that proves how "alpha" he is. His issue is going to be when you turn on tape of him running into a good opponent, getting frustrated early, and then basically giving up. It's easy to act like the "alpha receiver" against scrubs. Those guys who carry those personality warts and are all-pro receivers in the NFL don't have very many off-days...and thats off-days in the NFL. They most certainly didn't have many off-days against college defenses.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:16 pm to ChexMix
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Im interested to see where Sherwood goes. I think his size fits well in the NFL
I wonder if a team tries to develop him into a LB
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:24 pm to metafour
quote:Your posts are always incredibly long. They are informative and I read them and have no bone to pick. Just an observation.
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Many all-pro receivers are like that. Wide receivers are divas these days and that’s the nice word for it. Literally nobody can watch the Kentucky and Miss State games and say he’s not a competitor. In the State game I wouldn’t be surprised if he told Nix throw him the damn ball and let me shut this muh fricker up.
This is kind of a half-truth and not diving into it fully. The all-pro receivers who are "like that" more or less had to EARN that "privilege" - you won't find many "average" receivers in the NFL who get to pout like that and keep playing. And how many of the all-pro guys were "inconsistent" in college? The problem with Seth Williams is that that behaviour already manifests as an obvious deterrent in his performance at the college level. Again, the guys who do that in the NFL generally couldn't be stopped in any collegiate game they played - that isn't the case with Seth Williams. And of course some of that boils down to offensive scheme and quarterback play, but let's step away and differentiate that there's a difference between Randy Moss, Steve Smith, Terrell Owens or whoever else we're "thinking of" and Seth Williams. Him dominating Kentucky or Miss State should be a given, not something that proves how "alpha" he is. His issue is going to be when you turn on tape of him running into a good opponent, getting frustrated early, and then basically giving up. It's easy to act like the "alpha receiver" against scrubs. Those guys who carry those personality warts and are all-pro receivers in the NFL don't have very many off-days...and thats off-days in the NFL. They most certainly didn't have many off-days against college defenses.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:28 pm to auburnnyc94
I don’t think it’s worthwhile to get bogged down in the competitor label that I introduced to the thread. It wasn’t really my point
I think the things you’ve identified are built into his draft grade being somewhere around the 3-4 round.
I think the things you’ve identified are built into his draft grade being somewhere around the 3-4 round.
This post was edited on 4/26/21 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:33 pm to auburnnyc94
I actually thought being brought to tears was a sign that he was competitor. The quitting afterwards wasn’t. He probably stayed frustrated with Gus and Nix though so It’s yet to be determined how a fresh start will refocus his workmanship.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 4:33 pm to TheJones
That's fair, I think he has a chance to be a decent pro, but the issues certainly leave open the possibility he is out of the league in 3 years.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:09 pm to TheJones
Chex/Jones that’s what I’ve been saying about Sherwood in the right system as a pure linebacker or in the box safety he can be a difference maker. If he has to play coverage on a team WR1, 2 or 3 he’s probably in trouble. His tackling ability and size/speed makes him interesting in the box.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 6:49 pm to CorchJay
quote:If Jonathon Mincy can ball out in coverage in the NFL, anyone can
If he has to play coverage on a team WR1, 2 or 3 he’s probably in trouble.
I wouldnt write off his coverage skills just yet, although he would be an interesting addition as a linebacker.
Wish he had another year of eligibility
Posted on 4/26/21 at 7:04 pm to ChexMix
I read a scouting report that said moving to LB would highlight his strengths while minimizing his weaknesses. And he’s clearly got the frame for it
Posted on 4/26/21 at 8:34 pm to TheJones
quote:Makes me wonder if TD Moultry would have played LB instead of DE would he have had a better career.
I read a scouting report that said moving to LB would highlight his strengths while minimizing his weaknesses. And he’s clearly got the frame for it
Definitely would have had less offsides penalties
Posted on 4/26/21 at 9:00 pm to ChexMix
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Seth definitely had his moments of brilliance no doubt, however, they do not erase the memory of him playing selfishly. Loafing, not blocking, giving half assed effort when losing, etc.
That kind of attitude is accepted in the NFL. Not so much in college.
I wish him the best, but his film against NFL caliber DB's is less than impressive.
This post was edited on 4/26/21 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:06 pm to Tigerman97
quote:The only game i can remember him getting completely dominated was against South Carolina vs Horn.
I wish him the best, but his film against NFL caliber DB's is less than impressive.
Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:18 pm to BuckFama334
I don't think any of them will go till the fourth round
Posted on 4/27/21 at 3:35 pm to ChexMix
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The only game i can remember him getting completely dominated was against South Carolina vs Horn.
That's the most glaring example. I tend to give our WR's a bit of a pass. Whether it be OL play, QB play, play calling or scheme our passing game has always seemed a bit lacking.
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