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Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:04 am to TheJones
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I like Ira Henry a lot. Hope we land him
Good lord he has some long arms. He is already pretty tall and his arms about hang down to his knees
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:13 am to ellitor
Ira is quick and long enough to play LT. A lot of that position is between the ears so it’s hard to say where he will end up
Posted on 1/21/19 at 1:46 pm to TheJones
I post this because I thought it was interesting and applicable to recruiting (copied from
Bud Elliott, SB Nation):
The Patriots’ players were relatively unheralded as recruits.
How the Patriots’ starters rated as recruits
Player Stars College
Player Stars College
WR Chris Hogan 0 or N/A stars Monmouth
LT Trent Brown 3 stars Florida
LG Joe Thuney 2 stars NC State
C David Andrews 3 stars Georgia
RG Shaq Mason 3 stars Georgia Tech
RT Marcus Cannon 3 stars TCU
TE Rob Gronkowski 4 stars Arizona
WR Julian Edelman 3 stars Kent State
QB Tom Brady 4* stars Michigan
RB Sony Michel 5 stars Georgia
RB James White 3 stars Wisconsin
DE Trey Flowers 3 stars Arkansas
DT Lawrence Guy 4 stars Arizona State
DT Malcolm Brown 5 stars Texas
DE Deatrich Wise Jr. 3 stars Arkansas
LB Dont'a Hightower 4 stars Alabama
LB Elandon Roberts 0 or N/A stars Houston
LB Kyle Van Noy 4 stars BYU
CB Stephon Gilmore 4 stars South Carolina
CB Jason McCourty 0 or N/A stars Rutgers
S Patrick Chung 2 stars Oregon
S Devin McCourty 2 stars Rutgers
Though 16 out of 22 Patriots starters were rated at least three-stars, the Patriots’ average star rating sits at 2.9, thanks to three unrated recruits. The average of the players who were rated is 3.2.
* Tom Brady was a recruit before recruiting rankings, but we’ve retroactively made him a four-star with an asterisk. From California, he was a Michigan signee with plenty of offers from other national powers and attention in national media outlets. In today’s landscape, he would’ve unquestionably been a blue-chip.
*Chris Hogan was actually a lacrosse player in college, for Penn State. And he was a damn good one, having been selected as a 2006 Under Armour High School All-American. Focusing on a sport other than football is a way to fall through the cracks in football scouting, obviously, though coaches often love two-sport athletes.
Bud Elliott, SB Nation):
The Patriots’ players were relatively unheralded as recruits.
How the Patriots’ starters rated as recruits
Player Stars College
Player Stars College
WR Chris Hogan 0 or N/A stars Monmouth
LT Trent Brown 3 stars Florida
LG Joe Thuney 2 stars NC State
C David Andrews 3 stars Georgia
RG Shaq Mason 3 stars Georgia Tech
RT Marcus Cannon 3 stars TCU
TE Rob Gronkowski 4 stars Arizona
WR Julian Edelman 3 stars Kent State
QB Tom Brady 4* stars Michigan
RB Sony Michel 5 stars Georgia
RB James White 3 stars Wisconsin
DE Trey Flowers 3 stars Arkansas
DT Lawrence Guy 4 stars Arizona State
DT Malcolm Brown 5 stars Texas
DE Deatrich Wise Jr. 3 stars Arkansas
LB Dont'a Hightower 4 stars Alabama
LB Elandon Roberts 0 or N/A stars Houston
LB Kyle Van Noy 4 stars BYU
CB Stephon Gilmore 4 stars South Carolina
CB Jason McCourty 0 or N/A stars Rutgers
S Patrick Chung 2 stars Oregon
S Devin McCourty 2 stars Rutgers
Though 16 out of 22 Patriots starters were rated at least three-stars, the Patriots’ average star rating sits at 2.9, thanks to three unrated recruits. The average of the players who were rated is 3.2.
* Tom Brady was a recruit before recruiting rankings, but we’ve retroactively made him a four-star with an asterisk. From California, he was a Michigan signee with plenty of offers from other national powers and attention in national media outlets. In today’s landscape, he would’ve unquestionably been a blue-chip.
*Chris Hogan was actually a lacrosse player in college, for Penn State. And he was a damn good one, having been selected as a 2006 Under Armour High School All-American. Focusing on a sport other than football is a way to fall through the cracks in football scouting, obviously, though coaches often love two-sport athletes.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 1:47 pm to Warhead
The Rams were rated slightly higher as recruits.
How the Rams’ starters rated as recruits
Player Stars College
QB Jared Goff 4 stars Cal
RB Todd Gurley 4 stars Georgia
WR Brandin Cooks 3 stars Oregon State
WR Robert Woods 5 stars USC
WR Josh Reynolds 3 stars Texas A&M
TE Tyler Higbee 2 stars WKU
LT Andrew Whitworth 5 stars LSU
LG Roger Saffold 2 stars Indiana
C John Sullivan 4 stars Notre Dame
RG Austin Blythe 4 stars Iowa
RT Rob Havenstein 3 stars Wisconsin
DE Michael Brockers 4 stars LSU
NT Ndamukong Suh 4 stars Nebraska
DT Aaron Donald 3 stars Pitt
WLB Dante Fowler Jr. 5 stars Florida
OLB Samson Ebukam 0 or N/A stars Eastern Washington
ILB Corey Littleton 3 stars Washington
ILB Mark Barron 4 stars Alabama
CB Marcus Peters 3 stars Washington
CB Aqib Talib 2 stars Kansas
S John Johnson III 2 stars Boston College
S Lamarcus Joyner 5 stars Florida State
The Rams come in with an average rating of 3.4, higher than the Patriots.
L.A. has just one starter who was not rated out of high school. The Rams’ players who were rated have an average of 3.5.
How the Rams’ starters rated as recruits
Player Stars College
QB Jared Goff 4 stars Cal
RB Todd Gurley 4 stars Georgia
WR Brandin Cooks 3 stars Oregon State
WR Robert Woods 5 stars USC
WR Josh Reynolds 3 stars Texas A&M
TE Tyler Higbee 2 stars WKU
LT Andrew Whitworth 5 stars LSU
LG Roger Saffold 2 stars Indiana
C John Sullivan 4 stars Notre Dame
RG Austin Blythe 4 stars Iowa
RT Rob Havenstein 3 stars Wisconsin
DE Michael Brockers 4 stars LSU
NT Ndamukong Suh 4 stars Nebraska
DT Aaron Donald 3 stars Pitt
WLB Dante Fowler Jr. 5 stars Florida
OLB Samson Ebukam 0 or N/A stars Eastern Washington
ILB Corey Littleton 3 stars Washington
ILB Mark Barron 4 stars Alabama
CB Marcus Peters 3 stars Washington
CB Aqib Talib 2 stars Kansas
S John Johnson III 2 stars Boston College
S Lamarcus Joyner 5 stars Florida State
The Rams come in with an average rating of 3.4, higher than the Patriots.
L.A. has just one starter who was not rated out of high school. The Rams’ players who were rated have an average of 3.5.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 3:54 pm to Warhead
Those posts further the point that stars matter. In every high school graduating recruiting class 95% are 3*s or lower. Roughly 4.5% are 4*s. Roughly .5% are 5*s. Bud showed graphical proof of it in this tweet...
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 5:13 pm to ellitor
That's a misleading pie chart
Posted on 1/21/19 at 5:29 pm to JamalSanders
Jamious Griffin decommitted from NC State.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 5:45 pm to jt33
Was he the RB Gus was in love with?
Posted on 1/21/19 at 5:47 pm to JamalSanders
quote:
That's a misleading pie chart
Care to elaborate?
Posted on 1/21/19 at 6:03 pm to AU13
If 5% of players are 4 or 5 stars then the graph on the right should show 95%, not whatever sliver it does.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 6:04 pm to AUCE05
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Was he the RB Gus was in love with?
Not sure, but him and MAR are our two targets at RB with MAR being the higher priority. A VIP article was posted too, but I can't read it so maybe someone else can give details on that.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 6:14 pm to jt33
Gus must hate our current RB crop Posted on 1/21/19 at 6:31 pm to JamalSanders
quote:Not sure how. The percentages I posted aren't.
That's a misleading pie chart
Posted on 1/21/19 at 6:33 pm to JamalSanders
quote:I was only using the 7000 players or so each year that get a ranking. There is obviously more that are not given a ranking.
If 5% of players are 4 or 5 stars then the graph on the right should show 95%, not whatever sliver it does.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 7:50 pm to JamalSanders
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This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:00 pm to AUCE05
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Gus must hate our current RB crop
Hard to blame him. It looked a lot better before Asa got fat and transferred because he was butthurt.
I think there’s a very real scenario where we take Griffin and MAR. Only reason why I think it’s unlikely is because I don’t think either want to be in same 3 RB class as DJ
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:23 pm to TheJones
quote:??? I thought he was in Gus's dog house all season for his supposed entitled attitude?
Asa got fat
quote:Completely agree. I think the staff is concerned about losing MAR to UGA.
I think there’s a very real scenario where we take Griffin and MAR. Only reason why I think it’s unlikely is because I don’t think either want to be in same 3 RB class as DJ
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:30 pm to ellitor
I won’t speculate on his status to Gus. Gus only talks to Jesus and Kristi and neither work for 247.
But he had a belly last season
But he had a belly last season
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:48 pm to TheJones
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I don’t think either want to be in same 3 RB class as DJ
if MAR doesn’t want this, then I have to see what he thinks about walking into Athens and that RB room
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