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re: 2018 Football Recruiting Thread -- Final OP Update Edition
Posted on 1/11/18 at 4:05 pm to TigerPaw1
Posted on 1/11/18 at 4:05 pm to TigerPaw1
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Speaking of defensive backs…
For Auburn, I expect this to be one of the more fascinating positions to follow this next month.
There the elite long shots, such as Campbell above, or Kelvin Joseph, who recently committed to LSU. There are other high-caliber 4-stars who could emerge and take official visits such as Olaijah Griffin. And then there are the in-state prospects who seem to have made calculated de-commitment decisions with Auburn specifically in mind.
Two in that last category will head to Auburn for official visits this weekend.
Park Crossing (Ala.) athlete Cam Taylor will be on an official visit, as will former South Alabama commit Roger McCreary. Auburn continues to monitor and evaluate both. How many defensive backs Auburn attempts to take and what effect all of that will have on the commitment status of Kolbi Fuqua is unclear.
But Taylor and McCreary are high on the interest list for Auburn if the elite-of-the-elite targets go elsewhere.
They won’t be the last.
CD Daniels qualifies, and he’s expected to take an official visit later this month. All of this in-state evaluation adds intrigue as junior college options appear to have dwindled. As Keith Niebuhr of 247Sports first reported, JUCO corner Benjie Franklin won’t officially visit anymore. Another junior college corner who had been in contact with Auburn told SEC Country last month that the Tigers were more likely to go the high school route than the junior college route.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 4:16 pm to TigerPaw1
Auburn recruiting question of the day: Will Auburn be able to fill out O-line class without grad transfers? (SECCountry)
Honestly forget Tank Jenkins exists sometimes
Really hoping for the Gouraige/Barnes combo
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If we were to throw the word need around in Auburn recruiting, offensive line would be the place to start.
The Tigers only took three offensive linemen in the 2017 class. None of them — Calvin Ashley, Nick Brahms and Austin Troxell — saw time as true freshmen, though they’re all expected to have promising sophomore opportunity. In the early signing period, Kam Stutts and Jalil Irvin were the only linemen to ink with the 2018 class.
Auburn has work to do on that front in January.
With Stutts and Irvin as interior linemen, it would make sense to add another interior guy plus a pair of tackles, or even three if scholarship spots allowed it. Trey Hill was the clear-cut No. 1 offensive guard option for the Tigers leading up to the early signing period. That plan was stymied by Georgia, and it forced Auburn to re-assess what it wants to do at offensive guard.
To me, the easy option at guard is Tank Jenkins.
It’s been a back-and-forth recruitment for the big man from Montgomery, Ala.
He is receiving love from Oklahoma, Louisville and Ole Miss, as well. But Jenkins has always seemed like a prospect that would end up in the Tigers’ class. My sources have said the Tigers have wavered on Jenkins at times. But the fact of the matter is Jenkins has the physical ability to dominate at the college level. With the need along the offensive line, it seems like the right match.
The offensive tackle conversation is a slightly more complicated. There are more options, but less certainties.
Nicholas Petit-Frere, William Barnes, Richard Gouraige, Dylan Wonnum and Jalen Goss are the prime five to monitor right now. But again, if Auburn is only able to hit on one of that group, don’t rule out the possibility for the Tigers to find another diamond-in-the-rough type they’ve kept warm throughout the recruiting process.
With that said, I think the Tigers sit in solid position for Gouraige, Wonnum and Goss. Barnes could be one the Tigers steal away late with the final official visit. As for Petit-Frere, he’s a tough read. But if Auburn manages to get him on campus, anything can happen and the Tigers couldn’t be ruled out given their immediate need at tackle.
If Auburn can haul in Jenkins and a tandem of Gouraige-Wonnum-Barnes-Goss, it may not be necessary to go the grad transfer route. However, Auburn’s success and attempt to hit the grad-transfer market on the offensive line next year might be an indication of how the Tigers plan to work going forward.
Honestly forget Tank Jenkins exists sometimes
Really hoping for the Gouraige/Barnes combo
Posted on 1/11/18 at 4:24 pm to TigerPaw1
Auburn commit Coynis Miller breaks down official visits, explains reason for patience (SECCountry)
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Auburn DT commit breaks down official visit plans
Auburn really wanted Coynis Miller to sign during the early signing period in December, but the Tigers weren’t going to pressure him.
The weekend before the Dec. 20 signing date, several reports surfaced suggesting Miller was taking a last-minute visit to Tennessee. Miller ended up on a visit, but not in Knoxville, Tenn. He was back at the school — Auburn — that he’s been committed to since the fall.
It’s going to take a lot for the Tigers to lose a prospect they’ve prioritized since his junior season. As badly as they wanted him to be locked in already, they’re willing to battle it out with others heading toward signing day.
“I talked to Coach [Rodney Garner], and he wanted me to sign early,” Miller said. “He was like, ‘I’m not putting any pressure on you to sign early,’ so I didn’t. I was up there. I stayed the night up there. We were just talking in the office. Coach G was like, ‘It would be nice if you could sign early. I would like that.’ I just told him I’m not enrolling early so there’s no point. … I’m not enrolling early, so I’d be signing my papers for no reason.”
Miller is the top-ranked defensive tackle in the class, so he’s a piece Auburn can’t afford to lose.
The Tigers are aware of the surrounding threats — Tennessee, Florida and Oregon. Miller will take his official visits to those three destinations. It’ll be Oregon on Jan. 19, Tennessee on Jan. 26 and Florida on Feb. 2. Auburn’s official visit will come first, this weekend.
It won’t be easy for any of the three to leapfrog Auburn.
“There were some schools who came in to offer me and some that told me to come visit. I’m just the type of person that, if you offer me, I’m going to give you some type of shot. I’ll just take some visits first,” Miller said. “Tennessee, if I go down there and love it. I’ll go back down to Florida and see what [Florida coach Dan] Mullen’s talking about. That’s about it.”
Posted on 1/11/18 at 4:25 pm to TigerPaw1
5 things to know about Bo Nix, Auburn quarterback legacy and Tigers commit (SECCountry)
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Auburn landed a cornerstone commitment on Wednesday when 4-star quarterback Bo Nix joined the Class of 2019.
The Pinson Valley (Ala.) signal caller chose Auburn over Ohio State and Clemson via another iconic AL.com commitment video. Nix’s commitment moved the Tigers up 22 spots in the 247Sports composite team rankings — to No. 17.
Here are five things you should know about Auburn’s newest commit:
Posted on 1/11/18 at 4:25 pm to TigerPaw1
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1. Bo Nix is a quarterback legacy.
Much like with Shedrick Jackson, Bo Nix will always be linked to a family member who played for Auburn. We’ll try to keep that to a minimum going forward, but it’s a nice starting point here.
Nix’s father, Patrick Nix, played quarterback for the Tigers from 1992-95. The elder Nix passed for 4,957 yards and 31 touchdowns in his college career. He added 9 rushing touchdowns and was part of Auburn’s undefeated 1993 team.
Patrick Nix is now the coach at Pinson Valley High in Pinson, Ala., after spending a few years at Scottsboro High. The father-son tandem helped lead Pinson to a state championship in 2017.
Something else to be mindful of: Bo isn’t the last member of the Nix family to try his hand at quarterback. His younger brother will be next in line.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 4:25 pm to TigerPaw1
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2. Bo Nix joins another in-state standout in Auburn’s 2019 class.
Nix wasn’t the first to join the class.
Hoover (Ala.) wide receiver George Pickens will be a nice target for Nix at Auburn. Pickens has been committed to Auburn since last spring. He joined his high school wide receiver teammate Shedrick Jackson, who committed within a few weeks of one another last summer.
The one-two combo of Nix and Pickens gets Auburn’s offensive recruiting off to a fast start for 2019.
Nix’s stats in 2017 (with midseason injury): 196-of-307 passing for 2,872 yards, 36 passing touchdowns and 4 rushing touchdowns.
Pickens’ stats in 2018: 47 catches, 754 receiving yards, 6 receiving touchdowns, 18 returns, 289 return yards and 2 return touchdowns.
That’s a lethal combination to kick off the 2019 class.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 4:26 pm to TigerPaw1
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3. Other schools were given a chance, but it was Auburn all the way.
Here’s how Bo’s father, Patrick, described to SEC Country the chance other schools had in recruiting Bo.
“A lot of them are like, ‘Do we really have a chance?’ My thing is, if you don’t offer I can assure you that you don’t have a chance. If you do, I don’t know. But if you don’t, then you don’t have a chance because everyone else has.
“Yeah, he’s been an Auburn fan his whole life, but that’s no different than a kid down the road that’s been an Alabama fan his whole life. … The funny thing I’ve seen is it’s like he’s the only one out there that has any allegiance to any school. If people really think that, they’re out of their mind, and they probably miss out on the kids.”
In the end, however, Bo’s love for Auburn University took over.
It’s the program he always wanted to play for, the school he always wanted to attend. Patrick made a great fatherly move, though, and didn’t put any pressure on his son to follow in his footsteps.
It was Bo’s decision to make. In the end, the family legacy was too hard to pass up, given the offensive excellence the Tigers are moving toward under Gus Malzahn’s new contract and offensive coordinator Chip Lindsey.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 4:26 pm to TigerPaw1
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4. Bo Nix always wanted to build the class around him.
This was always the time Nix wanted to close down his recruitment.
“Probably between the seasons this year and next year,” he told SEC Country previously. “I want to have a good experience with the recruitment and have fun. I’m not going to push anything too soon. But it’s obviously extremely important to get in soon enough to build around me. I’m just trying to have a good relationship with guys in this class.”
Nix hinted at the Future 50 last week in Orlando, Fla., that his decision process was coming to an end.
He isn’t the first to joint the class — that distinction goes to Pickens — but he’s No. 2. It’s early enough in the recruiting process that Nix will be the face of the class for the rest of the cycle.
Nix can end up as the top-ranked prospect in the state for 2019, so this is a big momentum piece for the Tigers.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 4:26 pm to TigerPaw1
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5. His state championship run was one for the ages.
Nix missed part of his junior season with an injury, but it didn’t keep him out of the 2017 state playoffs.
The ballad of Bo Nix began in the state quarterfinals when Pinson Valley faced off against Austin and Auburn running back signee Asa Martin. Martin put on his own show in the first half to give his team a big lead. It looked like that might be enough to eliminate Pinson Valley.
Think again.
Here was Nix’s final stat line: 31-of-39 passing, 400 yards, 7 touchdowns.
The highlight of the game came in the final moment. After forcing overtime, Pinson Valley took the risk of going for a 2-point conversion on its first possession. Trailing 50-49, Nix easily completed a 2-point try to win the game 51-50 and advance to the state semifinals.
From there, Nix and Pinson Valley cruised to a state championship.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 4:31 pm to TigerPaw1
Auburn recruiting question of the day: Who will make official visits this weekend? (SECCountry)
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With the College Football Playoff complete, it’s time for every program in the country to turn its full attention to recruiting.
The dead period ends Thursday, which means the remaining unsigned or uncommitted targets will be hit with full force as they’re able to visit college campuses and coaching staffs are able to visit them. Auburn will host its first set of official visitors beginning Friday, and it’s expected to be a busy weekend. I’ll have an updated list on Friday, but we can take an early look at who is expected in town.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see more names added to this list:
4-star offensive tackle Dylan Wonnum
4-star running back Harold Joiner
4-star defensive tackle Coynis Miller
4-star running back Shaun Shivers
4-star wide receiver Anthony Schwartz
3-star offensive lineman Jalil Irvin
3-star athlete Cam Taylor
3-star cornerback Roger McCreary
There are a couple takeaways from that list that make for entertaining weekend storylines.
Wonnum is the first of three elite offensive tackles — William Barnes and Richard Gouraige are the others — who will take an official visit in January. He might be the least likely of the bunch to choose Auburn. Then again, he’s the only one of the three who has outright called the Tigers his leader during the recruiting process. He’s close friends with Irvin, who also will visit despite signing already.
What’s the deal with Harold Joiner? That’s the question coming into this one. He recruitment has had its fair share of twists and turns, but Auburn has remained a constant. As Auburn assesses whether to take a third running back, Joiner will be the first to be evaluated on an official visit. Kavosiey Smoke will come later in the month.
Auburn has to figure out something at cornerback if it misses on all of its top-rated targets. Taylor and McCreary are two of the more likely in-state possibilities. The staff will get its eyes on both of them early this month. Taylor hasn’t been offered, but McCreary picked up an offer more than a month ago.
And lastly, the Tigers’ primary goal will be to find certainty that Schwartz and Miller are locked in once and for all, even though they won’t be permitted to sign until Feb. 7.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 4:33 pm to TigerPaw1
What Auburn will be up against for state’s No. 1 prospect Justyn Ross (SECCountry)
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What Auburn will be up against for Justyn Ross
There are several prospects Auburn hopes to reel in by National Signing Day.
Justyn Ross, however, stands head and shoulders above the rest on that list.
The No. 1 prospect in Alabama per the 247Sports composite rarely leaves the state. And so far in January, he has just two visits set up — to the in-state schools. Alabama is on Jan. 19 and Auburn is Jan. 26. Ross already took his official visit to Clemson which, for part of his process, has been the perceived favorite for his services.
Ross hasn’t ever labeled a public leader himself, but he acknowledged why the belief is out there that Clemson is his favorite.
“I see it all the time. That’s not the case. People just say it because I’ve said Clemson is the best visit I’ve been on. That’s not the case, though. It was the best environment I’ve ever been in for a game. They have a nice environment up there,” Ross said. “[Clemson’s NFL draft reputation at receiver], it affects me a lot because as a receiver, as a player period, you’re going to want to go to the league. As I’ve seen Coach (Jeff) Scott, he develops players to go to the league. That helps Clemson out a lot.”
But Auburn and Alabama won’t go away quietly.
The Tigers have four wide receivers already in the 2018 class — Shedrick Jackson, Seth Williams, Matthew Hill and Anthony Schwartz. Ross is the clear-cut No. 1 the Tigers want to join them, though Ja’Marr Chase will take an official visit this month, too.
Alabama has been on the outside looking in, but the Crimson Tide have a new selling point. The number of true freshmen who took over in the national championship game give prospects new hope of early playing opportunities in Tuscaloosa.
Crimson Tide have improved in Ross’ mind throughout the season and he will certainly keep an eye on them.
“We talk almost like every week. Just that they have the new OC [Brian Daboll] and are throwing the ball around a lot more. They don’t have a receiver of my size. That’s it really,” Ross said. “I feel like they’ve gotten a lot better since they’ve gotten Coach Daboll. I feel like they’ve been throwing the ball around a lot more.”
Florida is a program that could work its way in for an official visit: “It’s a possibility,” Ross said. But don’t expect it. Ross won’t narrow it down further than Auburn, Alabama and Clemson, but those have been the three constants from start to finish.
Now it’s time for Ross to weigh the pros and cons.
At Clemson, he has something new. He has a quarterback relationship with Trevor Lawrence. It’s the place where he’s most enjoyed the environment. And there’s the receiver draft history. At Alabama, he can go to the defending national champions and join his close high school friend — Markail Benton who gives the Tide a rave review. He can add a wide receiver dimension to an offense losing Calvin Ridley. At Auburn, he can stay close to home. He can join an offense inspired the throw the ball more with new, incoming talent.
Ross will rely on his family for those decisions. His mother and grandma will let Ross choose his own destination, even if they have their own preferences.
“It’ll be just sitting down and talking to my family about it,” Ross said. “Grandma wants me anywhere in the state of Alabama. My mom, she likes Clemson a lot. Really, she likes all the schools, but at the end of the day, I’ll have to pick one. We haven’t really talked about it. If [my grandma] were to say that to me, I’d just ask her why. I’d have to measure out the reasons between her and my mom.”
Posted on 1/11/18 at 4:34 pm to TigerPaw1
Auburn recruiting question of the day: Will Tigers take another running back in 2018 class? (SECCountry)
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There are three ways that I can see the Class of 2018 running back situation playing out.
Scenario 1: Auburn takes a third running back — Harold Joiner.
Scenario 2: Auburn takes a third running back — Kavosiey Smoke.
Scenario 3: Auburn doesn’t take a third running back.
A potential fourth scenario could be a grad transfer running back, or an out-of-the blue 2018 target. But let’s stick with the aforementioned trio for now, as those seem to be the likeliest scenarios.
Joiner and Smoke have their official visits to Auburn set. Joiner will visit Auburn this weekend while Smoke will be on campus Jan. 26.
The 6-foot-3, 215-pound Joiner, from Birmingham, Ala., is the highest-ranked uncommitted running back in the nation.
His recruitment has been somewhat of a whirlwind, including a recent mishap with LSU that resulted in him re-opening his recruitment to anyone and everyone. Auburn has been a constant for Joiner throughout his process. He attended a handful of games in Jordan-Hare Stadium as a junior and senior. From a rankings standpoint, he seems like the clear-cut top option. He may be, but Auburn has always viewed Joiner as a hybrid back-receiver talent.
As for Smoke, his recruitment has gone much more under the radar, and he still doesn’t have an offer. His official visit will come two weeks after Joiner’s visit, so the Auburn staff will have a much more firm grasp on the running back plan and its standing with Joiner by that point. Smoke fits a more stereotypical running back mold, so if that’s what Auburn decides it’s looking for, that’s the direction it would go.
I spoke with a source last week who referred to this running back dilemma as a “head coach decision.” This goes beyond just the choice between Joiner and Smoke. We’re in the time of year where scholarship numbers-crunching is of the utmost importance. Auburn’s plan is to take 25 prospects in the class. With 15 signed — and five more committed and definitely expected to sign — there’s only room for about four or five others to join the class.
Herb Hand will want more offensive linemen. Greg Brown and Marcus Woodson will want more defensive backs. Travis Williams will want another linebacker. Rodney Garner will want more defensive linemen. And if Kodi Burns can snag a top-tier wide receiver, he’ll want to take him.
There isn’t room for everyone to get the remaining prospects they want, which is what makes it a decision for Gus Malzahn to make.
With the departures of Kerryon Johnson and Kamryn Pettway, my intuition says Auburn takes a third running back in this class.
Auburn signee Asa Martin fits the feature-back style in this class, but fellow signee Shaun Shivers is more of an all-purpose, get-creative type. There are others on campus — Kam Martin, Malik Miller, JaTarvious Whitlow and Devan Barrett — who add their own styles to the competition.
Smoke and Joiner offer different types of skill sets. Joiner’s is different enough, and offers enough upside, that he’s likely the preferred option. For now, I’d go 70-30 Joiner over Smoke (Scenario 1), which is why I think the Joiner official visit is set prior to the Smoke official visit.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 5:16 pm to TigerPaw1
I would be excited about Joiner, but our RB position is pretty deep already so if our basis for taking another RB is because KJ and KP are declaring, I am not sure that is a valid reason. We already have like 6 or more RBs on the roster and several studs in that group, being:
1) Devan Barrett (my favorite)
2) Kam Martin
3) Malik Miller
4) Asa Martin
5) Shaun Shivers
6) That other guy who we converted from another position whom everyone talks so highly about
1) Devan Barrett (my favorite)
2) Kam Martin
3) Malik Miller
4) Asa Martin
5) Shaun Shivers
6) That other guy who we converted from another position whom everyone talks so highly about
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 1/11/18 at 6:38 pm to ThaiTiger24
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1) Devan Barrett (my favorite)
2) Kam Martin
3) Malik Miller
4) Asa Martin
5) Shaun Shivers
6) That other guy who we converted from another position whom everyone talks so highly about
Need more feature backs.
Good ones
Posted on 1/11/18 at 6:54 pm to ThaiTiger24
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That other guy who we converted from another position whom everyone talks so highly about
The pride of Lafayette, AL - Mr. JaTarvious Whitlow.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 7:59 pm to Danger54
quote:JaTarvious "Boobee" Whitlow
The pride of Lafayette, AL - Mr. JaTarvious Whitlow.
(boo-bee like what's in a bra)
Posted on 1/11/18 at 8:06 pm to LanierSpots
quote:Auburn’s only “big” back, which is why I want Harold Joiner.
3) Malik Miller
He could be 6’3, 225-230 in a year’s time.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 8:10 pm to LanierSpots
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feature backs
Kavosiey Smoke could be a good feature back. He's 6' tall or better, 210 pounds. He doesn't go down when you hit his ankles. He runs in a tight package. He can hit the hole strong and be gone. But he's got a few cuts in him as well. I like him much better than Joiner.
Joiner won't be a good back on anyone's team in my opinion. He goes down quickly with contact (though admittedly contact was rare). I know backs like Derrick Henry ran straight up, but Henry was a bullet and had a small footprint. Joiner runs galloping like a horse. Reminds me of Roc Thomas. He will get snagged frequently and go down.
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:47 pm to PrisonMike
I'm with you on Smoke. Runs hard, lowers his shoulders, a little shifty too.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:32 am to ATLtiger12
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Obviously the key to Willis or Gatewood being effective will be their ability to be accurate throwing the ball and keep the defense honest. We don't know if either of them could that effectively yet.
I may have gone overboard comparing Willis to Marshall earlier but I really feel Willis will be dangerous at the helm, in part because of his passing abilities.
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But is anybody else concerned that a strict read option 70% run attack just isn't going to work like it did in 2013
Well, we have a different passing attack now that is based on spreading teams out, and not just vertically but sideline to sideline. Defenses are going to come up and try to stop our run, priority one. There are gaps in between and RPOs will help create those..
0:25 second mark
This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 3:06 am
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