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Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:32 am to TigerPaw1
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If we suck at pass rushing this year then I will probably join the "Garner sucks at recruiting pass rushers" train but for now I like what we are doing with our DL recruiting. We put a priority on guys that can do multiple things allowing us to easily transition from 4 man over fronts to 3 man okie to 4 man under. Lets you show lots of different looks without substituting.
I read a quote from Chris Lowe I believe it was..saying FSU coaches believe Brian Burns will be a top 10 draft pick. We just need to land a Burns, Arden Key, Antonnneus Clayton type. Maybe Big Cat is that guy.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:36 am to AUtigR24
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I read a quote from Chris Lowe I believe it was..saying FSU coaches believe Brian Burns will be a top 10 draft pick. We just need to land a Burns, Arden Key, Antonnneus Clayton type. Maybe Big Cat is that guy.
Agreed. I think Bryant is a year away just because I think needs time in weight room. I think Jibunor has Arden Key type quickness amd athleticism. Would love to get Anderson but don't see that happening
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:00 am to TigerPaw1
CB picks rolling in for Joiner to LSU this morning. Gonna be funny watching the LSU fans that trashed him do a 180 on him being an elite back again 
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:08 am to AUtigR24
quote:I think Big Cat will be as big of a disappointment as Cowart. When Big Cat went against elite competition in those five star challenges he whiffed pretty badly against higher level competition. It may not definitely mean he will whiff on the college level, but I am not confident in his ceiling at Auburn.
Maybe Big Cat is that guy
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:18 am to ThaiTiger24
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I think Big Cat will be as big of a disappointment as Cowart. When Big Cat went against elite competition in those five star challenges he whiffed pretty badly against higher level competition. It may not definitely mean he will whiff on the college level, but I am not confident in his ceiling at Auburn.
Bryant's struggle was strength. When the guys got their hands on him he was done. Supposedly he's already put on some more weight which is good. I don't think he's going to do big things his freshman year but I think he's got a bright future once he spends time with Ryan Russell.
Could see a similar career arc to Jeff Holland. Flashes some good stuff freshman year, rotates in as the 2nd Buck his sophomore year and becomes the guy his junior season. It sounds like he's got the mentality just needs to put on the strength.
Cowart seems to lack something mentally. He's got all the physical tools but for whatever reason can't seem to use them consistently. That's what sets Davidson apart. He came in with both tools and the mindset. Handled the coaching and excelled
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:23 am to TigerPaw1
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If we suck at pass rushing this year then I will probably join the "Garner sucks at recruiting pass rushers" train but for now I like what we are doing with our DL recruiting. We put a priority on guys that can do multiple things allowing us to easily transition from 4 man over fronts to 3 man okie to 4 man under. Lets you show lots of different looks without substituting.
However, if we can't generate a pass rush then it's worthless. Very interested to see how that front looks this year without Adams/Lawson. It's getting a ton of hype hopefully it lives up to it
We are recruiting well at the Buck position. Really well. They're our pass rushers, so I don't see the gripe. Moultry and Big Cat both look to have major pass rush potential once Holland/PJ3 are gone.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:15 am to WareagleKK
This whole subject is nonsensical. I love that people are already deciding that Big Cat will be a bust!!
Should be a good candidate for DPOTY!
People bitch about Cowart, but he wasn't necessarily a Garner recruit. That was all on Hot Head! He was convinced that BC was going to be a next generation Lawrence Taylor, minus the incredible Blow habit!
Should be a good candidate for DPOTY!
People bitch about Cowart, but he wasn't necessarily a Garner recruit. That was all on Hot Head! He was convinced that BC was going to be a next generation Lawrence Taylor, minus the incredible Blow habit!
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:00 am to jrljr
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People bitch about Cowart, but he wasn't necessarily a Garner recruit. That was all on Hot Head! He was convinced that BC was going to be a next generation Lawrence Taylor, minus the incredible Blow habit!
So wait, you're saying Garner had the misfortune of having a top 5 player forced upon him and it's all Muschamp's fault?
Congrats, it's not noon and you've sewn up worst post of the day.
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 11:01 am
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:26 am to RandySavage
Not what I said at all. Just pointing out that the biggest bust of Garner's tenure was not a kid he set out to get. I'm sure he was happy to get him. He seemed to be on that video. But boom is the one who said "We just got better."
I don't think you can say any of Rodney's boys have failed to the extent that BC has thus far.
Nice try though. maybe you need a Slim-Jim?
I don't think you can say any of Rodney's boys have failed to the extent that BC has thus far.
Nice try though. maybe you need a Slim-Jim?
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:29 am to RandySavage
I was past noon where I reside...FWIW. 
Posted on 8/11/17 at 1:16 pm to jrljr
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People bitch about Cowart, but he wasn't necessarily a Garner recruit
Garner recruits at DE haven't fared much better
If we are divvying up DE recruits to coaches, here are Garner recruits vs other coaches
Garner
Elijah Daniel
Davonte Lamber
Rasheed Kennion
Prince Tega
Andrew Williams
Daquon Newkirk
Big Cat
Marlon Davidson **for legacy
Paul James III
Not Garner Recruits
Carl Lawson - Chiz/Pelton **Garner almost screwed up
Justin Thornton - DCraig
Byron Cowart - Muschamp/Trob
Nick Coe - Muschamp/TRob found him from wrestling
Jeff Holland - Muschamp/Trob
TD Moultry - TWill
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 8/11/17 at 2:01 pm to GenesChin
Guys that Garner has coached, have produced. Most of your list is still yet TBD.
The earlier point was that people point to BC, and claim him as a Rodney Fail. When he wasn't a Rodney recruit. A lot of those guys were nobodies, and still have a chance to be somebody!
Kennion and Daniel...that is all you have.
Lambert and Lawrence were both at MGC, and both have had, and still have opportunities in the NFL. Dev was going nowhere, until RG picked him up.
Kennion was a first year long shot, and wants to be a politician. Daniel stole errbodies PS3's!!! WTH?
Please tell me how RG screwed up Lawson? Thornton was not D1 talent.
RG is the best thing that will ever happen for Coe, and you are just trying to be a stick in the mud with the rest.
PJIII, Holland, Davidson, Newkirk, Williams, Big Cat, etc. will all likely be rich if they listen to RG.
Ask Monty what made him a man?
He made several millionaires during his time at UGA. He was handed dog poop outside of Dee Ford when he arrived at AU, and has developed one of the strongest, and deepest DL's in the SEC.
You are also leaving out Derrick Brown and Dontavius Russell...oops!
Your lists are CRAP.
The earlier point was that people point to BC, and claim him as a Rodney Fail. When he wasn't a Rodney recruit. A lot of those guys were nobodies, and still have a chance to be somebody!
Kennion and Daniel...that is all you have.
Lambert and Lawrence were both at MGC, and both have had, and still have opportunities in the NFL. Dev was going nowhere, until RG picked him up.
Kennion was a first year long shot, and wants to be a politician. Daniel stole errbodies PS3's!!! WTH?
Please tell me how RG screwed up Lawson? Thornton was not D1 talent.
RG is the best thing that will ever happen for Coe, and you are just trying to be a stick in the mud with the rest.
PJIII, Holland, Davidson, Newkirk, Williams, Big Cat, etc. will all likely be rich if they listen to RG.
Ask Monty what made him a man?
He made several millionaires during his time at UGA. He was handed dog poop outside of Dee Ford when he arrived at AU, and has developed one of the strongest, and deepest DL's in the SEC.
You are also leaving out Derrick Brown and Dontavius Russell...oops!
Your lists are CRAP.
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 8/11/17 at 3:22 pm to jrljr
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The earlier point was that people point to BC, and claim him as a Rodney Fail.
You were the one who pointed out he wasn't a Rodney recruit :lol
I don't dislike Garner. I wish we had slightly more consistent recruiting along the DL, but he isn't a liability.
Just pointing out that outside Lawson + '13 Ford, we've had some very poor pass rushing from the DE position during Garner's tenure. We seem to never do well attracting/developing pass rush specialists/speed rushers
Posted on 8/11/17 at 3:30 pm to GenesChin
I just don't think that is Garner's style necessarily for his DL. It's been a while so I may be wrong, but I don't really remember that many just dominant rush ends when he was at UGA either. It always seemed they were stout against the run and their pass rush was more designed about collapsing the pocket than some pass rush specialist around the edge.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 3:55 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
I was reading the latest SI article earlier today. An opposing coach talked about how well our DL play with their hands.
RG is a very good DL coach. We could do a lot worse. I am glad to have him.
RG is a very good DL coach. We could do a lot worse. I am glad to have him.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 4:35 pm to MrAUTigers
His consistency is a plus and overlooked He's been there despite the juggling of coordinators and helped provided some needed stability. Yeah, he could have been replaced along the line (sic) however there's now 4 year players who've known him through out their career and seen the changes he's endured. That's a role model for them as well as a familiar rock to lean on. Just a guess, but having at least part for the staff around for more than a year or two, might be a good thing.
Posted on 8/12/17 at 12:02 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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don't really remember that many just dominant rush ends
Jarvis Jones, Justin Houston and David Pollack all played for Garner
The issue I have is that we just don't target many guys that fit / strength is the 3rd down specialist mold. Most of our DE recruits end up moving inside or could (e.g Davidson)
Posted on 8/12/17 at 1:14 am to GenesChin
Jones was an OLB was he not? I'm not saying they didn't exist. I mean we had Ford and Lawson under him. I just mean that his DL was never reliant on some freak pass rusher. I would say our DL while he was at UGA was known more for DE pass rushers than his was at UGA.
Posted on 8/12/17 at 7:24 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Back to 2018 recruiting. FWIW LSU 247 reporters does not have Z McClain in their most recent class projection & Keith says AU has slowed on him some. The staff likes him a lot but won't get locked into any games with him.
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