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re: 2017 Football Recruiting Thread ["N$D Bryant" Edition]

Posted on 8/31/16 at 7:00 am to
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30855 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 7:00 am to
Can he suit up?
Posted by smuphy72
Bham
Member since Nov 2009
3460 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 7:43 am to
If he was starting QB, we'd be a 12 win team.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

Jovon Robinson
Cam Artis-Payne
Onterio McCalebb (pre school)
Octavius Matthews


The best was Rudi Johnson.....
From 1998-99, Johnson won two national titles and the NJCAA Player of the Year honor at Kansas' Butler Community College.He then won SEC Offensive Player of the Year honors in 2000 with his 1,567 rushing yards as an Auburn Tiger.

Posted by WareagleKK
Milton, GA (ur welcome for Lawson)
Member since May 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 2:39 pm to
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Can he suit up?


if this happened, we'd be favored by at least 8.
Posted by chizhead
Member since Sep 2012
1048 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 2:53 pm to
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If he was starting QB, we'd be a 12 win team
nope.....you have to remember who would be coaching him
Posted by WareagleKK
Milton, GA (ur welcome for Lawson)
Member since May 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:20 pm to
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nope.....you have to remember who would be coaching him


the coach who OC'd Auburn to a NC in 2010, another appearance in 2013 and had record setting offenses at Tulsa?
Posted by chizhead
Member since Sep 2012
1048 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:26 pm to
i remember that guy!...whatever happened to him?....
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 4:27 pm to
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i remember that guy!...whatever happened to him?....
JJ happened to him.. Other than that, I think Gus has done fine with QBs.

3-8 Chris Todd sucked, Tubbs last year, Gus Hired
8-5 Todd Sets Records
14-0 Cam (He got better as the season progressed
8-5 Barrett Trotter (Chiz made Gus slow down the offense and I think play Clint Moseley, Gus and Trotter left)
3-9 Folks point to Frazier and Moseley who sucked , but GUS was gone. Can not blame him for their development.
12-2 Nick Marshall a converted DB, SEC Champs, 13 seconds away
8-5 Nick and the Offense played well, the defense sucked, losing 55-44 to Bama.
7-6 JJ happened, Gus gave the keys to Lashlee, this is really the only starting QB he did not develop.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 8:06 pm to
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Chiz made Gus slow down the offense



You still believe this lie?
Posted by bham_tiger
Member since Jun 2015
574 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:07 pm to
It's not a lie, and it's true Chizik made Gus play Mosley. Gus wanted Trotter all along.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:25 pm to
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You still believe this lie?



I know that Gus tried to assert some control on Gus' offense.

The difference is, I don't think our offense would have been much better of Chizik didn't meddle
Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
3695 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 8:08 am to
Offensive line was so bad that year. Damn..
Posted by WareagleKK
Milton, GA (ur welcome for Lawson)
Member since May 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 8:54 am to
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quote:
You still believe this lie?



I know that Gus tried to assert some control on Gus' offense.

The difference is, I don't think our offense would have been much better of Chizik didn't meddle


So this is what I've been told by people who knew things back under the Chizik regime.

Gus would literally spend his time devising his gameplans for the following game. Then on the days (i think Thursday) when they propose these defensive and offensive gameplans, Chizik would look them over and literally tear them apart. Gus' issue was that pace was consistently removed from the equation bc he felt the need to protect the defense.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 9:45 am to
First that is hearsay.

Next, the same issues we saw in 2011 popped up again last season. Qbs not developed, bad OL play (injuries last season) and predictable play calling. 80% run on first down last season, was Chizik involved in that?

Lastly Trotter was a decent QB to begin the season. But The Matador AJ Greene was so bad at LT that Trotter developed David Carr syndrome by the time the South Carolina was over. I'm afraid this will happen again with Leff on the OL.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30855 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 11:26 am to
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Gus' issue was that pace was consistently removed from the equation bc he felt the need to protect the defense.



Well Gus is now the head coach and has removed pace from the equation sooo.....
Posted by WareagleKK
Milton, GA (ur welcome for Lawson)
Member since May 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:16 pm to
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First that is hearsay.


You have zero clue if that's hearsay, anymore than I do since we weren't IN the room. But It's what I was told when Gus left and Phillip Marshall (who may be an old fart but he still knows people) has confirmed as much several times, as recent as this week. I'd conclude this is just your little theory to continue negabarning.

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Next, the same issues we saw in 2011 popped up again last season. Qbs not developed, bad OL play (injuries last season) and predictable play calling. 80% run on first down last season, was Chizik involved in that?


Our OL play was really good last season. You're on crack. The playcalling was bonafide crap last year, specifically once SW got hurt and JJ got thrust back into action. The offensive rhythm was fukt.

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Lastly Trotter was a decent QB to begin the season. But The Matador AJ Greene was so bad at LT that Trotter developed David Carr syndrome by the time the South Carolina was over. I'm afraid this will happen again with Leff on the OL.


AJ Greene was the worst OT I've ever seen at Auburn. Leff is a much MUCH more technically sound OL. Greene couldn't run or pass block. Leff did fine when he played last yr vs the pass and was exceptional vs the run.
Posted by WareagleKK
Milton, GA (ur welcome for Lawson)
Member since May 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:17 pm to
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Well Gus is now the head coach and has removed pace from the equation sooo.....


wasn't the case in 2014 or 2013. Pace has always been his thing after the first first down. His offensive rhythm was just screwed after JJ lost his mind. Then once he got SW into a rhythm, SW got hurt. It was a clusterfuk
Posted by konjis1
Member since Feb 2014
325 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 2:04 pm to
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You make Charles Manson look put together


Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41151 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 3:00 pm to
I prefer the one with Ernie in the backseat.

Posted by AU_RX
City of St George
Member since May 2005
4250 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 9:49 pm to
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Ernie


Really??
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