re: 2016 Auburn Football Recruiting Thread

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Antwuan Jackson wasn't our #1 or #2 on the board with Rashan Gary & Derrick Brown.

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OK, the staff rates Gary (who many consider the best player in the country) and Brown (who many consider the best player in the state of GA) higher than Jackson.

That means that Jackson is NOT 'a top DT'? (Note the difference between 'the top DT' and 'a top DT', please.)

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as we have signed plenty of talent.

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We have won recruiting battles and signed talented players. Auburn has not signed llenty of talent. Roster management has been a big issue on DL


We only had 5 scholarship DT this year with only 4 playable (Johnson FR coming off ACL)

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Auburn has not signed plenty of talent

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Yes we have. They're just all DEs and not DTs

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Yes we have. They're just all DEs and not DTs

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Which makes it weird that our DE play has been so poor

2015

Auburn Signed: Jauntavius Johnson 3*, Maurice Swain 3*

Rivals Top 22 DT Rankings (5-22 all 4*)

#1 Kahlil McKenzie (CA) 5* - Tenner
#2 Trenton Thompson (GA) 5* - UGA
#3 Daron Payne (AL) 5* - Bama
#4 Christian Wilkins (CT) 5* - Clemson
#5 Terry Beckner Jr (IL) - Mizzou
#6 Noah Jefferson (NV) - USC
#7 Daylon Mack (TX) - ATM
#8 Shy Tuttle (NC) - Tenner
#9 Neville Gallimore (Canada) - Okla
#10 Albert Huggins (SC) - Clemson
#11 Jacob Daniel (CA) - USC
#12 Joseph Wicker (CA) - Arizona St
#13 Darian Roseboro (NC) - NC State
#14 Breiden Fehoko (HI) - Texas Tech
#15 Jerry Tiller (LA) - ND
#16 Darrion Daniels (TX) - Okla St
#17 Tim Settle (VA) - VT
#18 Darvin Taylor II (VA) - FSU
#19 Marquise Overton (OK) - Oklahoma
#20 Hjalte Froholdt (FL) - Arky
#21 Thomas Toki (CA) - Washington St
#22 Khalil Davis (MO) - Nebraska
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#32 Jauntavius Johnson (AL) - AU

Rivals Top JUCO DT Rankings

#1 D.J. Jones (MS) 4* - Ole Miss
#2 Maurice Swain (MS) 3* - AU (#27 JUCO Overall)
#3 Motekiai Maile (TX) 3* - Okla St
#4 Demond Tucker (MS) 3* - Iowa St
#5 Deonte Reynolds (CA) 3* - Arizona St
#6 Bobby Leath (KS) 3* - Iowa St
#7 Jonathan Taylor (MS) - Bama


247 Composite DT Rankings (8-22 all 4*)

#1 Trent Thompson (GA) 5* - UGA
#2 Kahlil McKenzie (CA) 5* - Tenner
#3 Terry Beckner Jr (IL) 5* - Mizzou
#4 Daylon Mack (TX) 5* - ATM
#5 Rasheem Green (CA) 5* - USC
#6 Christian Wilkins (CT) 5* - Clemson
#7 Daron Payne (AL) 5* - Bama
#8 Breiden Fehoko (HI) - TTU
#9 Shy Tuttle (NC) - Tenner
#10 Jacob Daniel (CA) - USC
#11 Neville Gallimore (Canada) - Oklahoma
#12 Albert Huggins (SC) - Clemson
#13 Tim Settle (VA) - VT
#14 Adam McLean (MD) - Maryland
#15 Hjalte Froholdt (FL) - Arky
#16 Marquise Overton (OK) - Oklahoma
#17 Darvin Taylor II (VA) - FSU
#18 Raequan Williams (IL) - Mich St
#19 Thomas Toki (CA) - Washington St
#20 Darrion Daniels (TX) - OKST
#21 Elijah Taylor (OH) - ND
#22 Kingsley KeKe (TX) - ATM
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#31 Jauntavius Johnson (AL) - AU

247 Composite DT JUCO Rankings (3-10 all 3*)

#1 D.J. Jones 4* - Ole Miss
#2 Jeremiah Ledbetter 4* - Arky
#3 Courtney Miggins - UK
#4 Jonathan Taylor - Bama
#5 Greg Webb - Temple
#6 Demond Tucker - Iowa State
#7 Anthony Fotu - Arizona
#8 Motekiai Maile - OKST
#9 Deonte Reynolds - Arizona State
#10 Maurice Swain - AU (#53 JUCO Overall)


2016

Auburn Committed: Antwuan Jackson 4*, Tashawn Manning 2*, David Marshall 3*

Rivals Top 27 DT Rankings (3-27 all 4*)

#1 Rashan Gary (NJ) 5*
#2 Dexter Lawrence (NC) 5* - Clemson
#3 Derrick Brown (GA)
#4 Ed Oliver (TX) - Houston
#5 Edwin Alexander (LA) - LSU
#6 D'andre Christmas-Giles (LA)
#7 Kendell Jones (TX) - Bama
#8 Rashard Lawrence (LA)
#9 Raekwon Davis (MS) - Bama
#10 Antwuan Jackson (GA) - AU (#108 Overall)
#11 Benito Jones (MS) - Ole Miss
#12 Briston Guidry (LA) - Arkansas
#13 Shavar Manuel (FL)
#14 Julian Rochester (GA) - UGA
#15 Michail carter (GA)
#16 Nyles Pinckney (SC) - Clemson
#17 Boss Tagaloa (CA)
#18 Darius Whitfield (AL) - USCe
#19 Chris Daniels (TX) - Oklahoma
#20 Garrett Rand (AZ) - Wisconsin
#21 Cedric Wood (FL) - FSU
#22 Mike Panasiuk (IL) - Mich St
#23 Tyler Clark (GA) - UGA
#24 Nawuan Jones (IL) - Mich St
#25 Kyree Campbell (VA) - UNC
#26 Malik Barrow (FL) - tOSU
#27 Ellison Jordan (MD) - PSU

#39 David Marshall - AU
NR Tashawn Manning - AU

247 Composite Top 35 DT Rankings (6-35 all 4*)

#1 Rasahn Gary (NJ) 5*
#2 Dexter Lawrence (NC) 5* - Clemson
#3 Derrick Brown (GA) 5*
#4 Ed Oliver (TX) 5* - Houston
#5 Rashard Lawrence (LA) 5*
#6 Edwin Alexander (LA) - LSU
#7 Shavar Manuel (FL)
#8 Antwuan Jackson (GA) - AU (#55 Overall)
#9 Julian Rochester (GA) - UGA
#10 Kendell Jones (TX) - Bama
#11 Benito Jones (MS) - Ole Miss
#12 Raekwon Davis (MS) - Bama
#13 Jordan Elliott (TX) - Michigan
#14 Boss Tagaloa (CA)
#15 Garrett Rand (AZ) - Wisconsin
#16 Michail Carter (GA)
#17 Ellison Jordan (MD) - PSU
#18 Karamo Dioubate (PA) - PSU
#19 Chris Daniels (TX) - Oklahoma
#20 Cedric Wood (FL) - FSU
#21 Keyshon Camp (FL) - USC
#22 Naquan Jones (IL) - Mich St
#23 Glen Logan (LA) - LSU
#24 Austin Capps (AR) - Arky
#25 Quinnen Williams (AL) - Bama
#26 Tyler Clark (GA) - UGA
#27 Michael Williams (TX) - Stanford
#28 Ross Blacklock (TX)
#29 Stephon Taylor (LA)
#30 Briston Guidry (LA) - Arky
#31 Kobe Jones (MS)
#32 Malik Barrow (FL) - tOSU
#33 Bravvion Roy (TX) - Baylor
#34 Nyles Pinckney (SC) - Clemson
#35 Mike Panasiuk (IL) - Mich St
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#61 Tashawn Manning (FL) - AU
David Marshall listed as 3*, #22 SDE

Not when 1/2 have been converted to potentially athletic DT's.

Tough to project whether a kid who is 16, and 6'-04"/265, and still growing. Unless you just sign the most athletic, and roll with it.

It is hard when guys like Thornton don't make it early. Highly ranked kid, with a decent frame, but can't gain a lb if momma made steak w/ gravy every night!

It is somewhat simple to make generic statements like yours. But, when you check the details, it changes the calculus just a smidge.

If you had a clue about what REALLY goes on w/ recruiting, it would rattle your cage IMO. Most can't stomach it, yet it has always, and will always go on. Even with the good kids, whose mommas get involved, there is the "Uncle". 90% have one, and it won't change.

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No one said we strike out on every top DT,

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What the hell are you talking about, dude? The guy who I *directly* responded to said this:

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Every year this board loves to pretend like we have a shot at a top DT, and every year they go elsewhere.

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What else does that mean but that we never sign a top DT, i.e. we strike out on every highly-rated DT?

If you had read my post in the context of WHO I RESPONDED TO maybe you wouldn't be so confused?

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It wasn't an all inclusive argument that we never sign top DTs.

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I'll be damned if it wasn't.

It would be nice to keep the 2016 recruiting thread about 2016 recruiting... we can all debate the ups and downs of garner and the DL.

We seem to be addressing the DL needs win this class... and have three potential impact guys for next year (James, Jackson, Davidson) enrolling in January.

That DE play/development is NOT weak, per se. (Or "per se'" for Sand'man'bitch)

There is very little understanding, as to what it REALLY takes to sign some kids.

The most vocal antagonists, seem to always have the least info.

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It would be nice to keep the 2016 recruiting thread about 2016 recruiting... we can all debate the ups and downs of garner and the DL.

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Right now this thread is on topic...